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 Tim Gypsy Hill '64  Stoke sub normal 13 Oct 20 1.02am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
‘Same amount of hospitalisations as in March’ 1. They’re now testing people with broken arms in A&E and putting them down as ‘admissions’ 2. In March everything was rising faster. Not exponentially at any time, but faster than now. Now the rises are very gradual and it’s the season you expect this as well. Plus people are recovering much faster apparently. Don’t get to hear that. Just fear fear fear. This. And Rudi was initially worried. Now he sees through the hype.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 13 Oct 20 1.39am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Partly, she had a test today but I'm sure she will be fine. The contraception part was a joke - barely needed after 15 years. If things are slow in the bedroom department would you consider inviting someone else in to the fold to try and spice things up with you and the Mrs? I could give your Mrs something to choke on and it wouldn’t be coronavirus. PM for details
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BlueJay  UK 13 Oct 20 2.13am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
There’s a difference between a 45 year old dying of cancer, and I’d know, to an 82 year old dying from Covid. MP’s starting to ask what’s the plan considering it rests on a vaccine and when they expect that vaccine, and what happens and how effective will that vaccine be. Obviously no answers to the questions because they haven’t a clue and never will. Shameful. Prioritising deaths (life of people contracting Covid) is the only policy. Apart from that it’s saving careers and reputations and one eye on public inquiries. If the media weren’t the way they are we wouldn’t trash the economy and future. I'm in agreement to an extent, in that surely there must be an age at which cancer treatment is as important as any other emergency. The problem though is that even at the best of times the NHS has a haphazard approach and long waiting lists. Add a pandemic to the mix, especially during the first lockdown when we had less idea of what we were dealing with, and no treatment options, and I can understand how we found ourselves where we did. Ideally now with more knowledge and more options, those with very pressing health concerns would ideally be able to receive treatment in a timely fashion. As you say though, the ideal and the reality of what actually happens may well be two different animals.
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| BlueJay UK 13 Oct 20 2.31am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Doing the basics prior to going home may help. Not saying some dont try to do this but it's clear a lot arnt and havent. Yes that's true. Especially if people are living with someone elderly or vulnerable, there is a real need to think things through and try your level best not to put that person at risk. Taking chances with your own health is one thing, doing so for someone else is a different matter. Edited by BlueJay (13 Oct 2020 2.37am)
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| BlueJay UK 13 Oct 20 2.50am |
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Covid reinfection: Man gets Covid twice and second hit 'more severe' - [Link] There have been only a handful of documented cases of people getting covid-19 twice so far - which is a relief. However, of those that have, some have got it much worse the second time than the first. That brings to mind a few thoughts, none of which we really know yet. Is herd immunity even possible? Are these individuals exceptions to the rule with most others being immune for a significantly longer time period? Will it come to be that getting covid-19 worse the second time is rare, or common? How would a vaccine factor into this dynamic? As much as we know, we're still second guessing what comes next.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Oct 20 9.09am |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
This. And Rudi was initially worried. Now he sees through the hype. I saw through the hype quite early on but went along with getting to the other side of the bell curve but not flattening it. By May it was time to get people out with maybe some limits on numbers in places. The whole thing is bullsh1t now, as people will gradually realise when they get the truth on expected time of vaccine, which they have no idea on despite the shyte they hear on the bbc, and the safety of any vaccine, which they’ll never know unless they wait, and then it might not be needed anyway. And these vaccines are said to lower symptoms, not make you immune.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Oct 20 9.14am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I'm in agreement to an extent, in that surely there must be an age at which cancer treatment is as important as any other emergency. The problem though is that even at the best of times the NHS has a haphazard approach and long waiting lists. Add a pandemic to the mix, especially during the first lockdown when we had less idea of what we were dealing with, and no treatment options, and I can understand how we found ourselves where we did. Ideally now with more knowledge and more options, those with very pressing health concerns would ideally be able to receive treatment in a timely fashion. As you say though, the ideal and the reality of what actually happens may well be two different animals. Covid wards were empty by July and other wards were empty since March to beginning of October. There’s no excuse for this. I bumped into a hospital building and planning manager of a London Borough hospital some palace fans will use. I brought up the 45 year old I know who died and I let him shuffle off after he said it was sad. All unable to speak if they want to. Gross misconduct issue.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 13 Oct 20 9.14am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Covid reinfection: Man gets Covid twice and second hit 'more severe' - [Link] There have been only a handful of documented cases of people getting covid-19 twice so far - which is a relief. However, of those that have, some have got it much worse the second time than the first. That brings to mind a few thoughts, none of which we really know yet. Is herd immunity even possible? Are these individuals exceptions to the rule with most others being immune for a significantly longer time period? Will it come to be that getting covid-19 worse the second time is rare, or common? How would a vaccine factor into this dynamic? As much as we know, we're still second guessing what comes next. I know someone who was struck by lightning twice. I should imagine it’s about the same chance of happening looking at the statistics. Maybe lightning strikes are more prevalent.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Oct 20 9.18am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I know someone who was struck by lightning twice. I should imagine it’s about the same chance of happening looking at the statistics. Maybe lightning strikes are more prevalent. Quite right. I’m tired of these people wanting this govt crutch and security blanket and like you I’m not happy about our country spiralling to Sh1t because of them. They’ll grab hold of the last fibre as we pull that security blanket away.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Oct 20 9.30am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Covid wards were empty by July and other wards were empty since March to beginning of October. There’s no excuse for this. I bumped into a hospital building and planning manager of a London Borough hospital some palace fans will use. I brought up the 45 year old I know who died and I let him shuffle off after he said it was sad. All unable to speak if they want to. Gross misconduct issue. I realise things might be a little different here, because we haven't yet seen a surge of new cases, but my own reviews and treatment have not really been impacted in any way, at any time, by Covid. An oncologist held a 15 min phone consultation with me last week, which improved things as I didn't need to travel to the hospital and wait for an hour to see him. The test results he needed were all in his hands and no physical examination necessary. The next, in December, is already booked. My wife works in the hospital and her neurological ward is full and operating normally.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Oct 20 9.34am |
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You said it. Your region has been unaffected so is pointless comparing.
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Teddy Eagle  13 Oct 20 9.36am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I realise things might be a little different here, because we haven't yet seen a surge of new cases, but my own reviews and treatment have not really been impacted in any way, at any time, by Covid. An oncologist held a 15 min phone consultation with me last week, which improved things as I didn't need to travel to the hospital and wait for an hour to see him. The test results he needed were all in his hands and no physical examination necessary. The next, in December, is already booked. My wife works in the hospital and her neurological ward is full and operating normally. Best wishes to you Wisbech and hope things work out for you and anyone else with any experience of that hateful disease.
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