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 Teddy Eagle  09 Oct 20 8.34am |
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 09 Oct 20 8.47am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
In the true spirit of statistics, it tells us that dead people are nearly a year older than they were 11 months ago?
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Oct 20 8.54am |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
In the true spirit of statistics, it tells us that dead people are nearly a year older than they were 11 months ago? Or if you catch it you’ll live 11 months longer than if you don’t.
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cardiff eagle  09 Oct 20 8.57am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I take the point about the more you test the more you will find however the number I look at is how many people are being admitted to hospital and there is no doubt that this is rising quite sharply. What we do about it I don't know the experts don't seem to agree either. But is it rising more sharply than hospital admissions normally would at this time of year? That’s the measure we should care about. That and excess deaths. Anything else is just noise. Note: I don’t know if they are or aren’t. I just want the right comparator to be used.
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Badger11  Beckenham 09 Oct 20 9.01am |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
But is it rising more sharply than hospital admissions normally would at this time of year? That’s the measure we should care about. That and excess deaths. Anything else is just noise. Note: I don’t know if they are or aren’t. I just want the right comparator to be used. Fair point however in this case I am referring to corona virus admissions specifically so you can only compare those on a weekly basis. I think the good news about death rates is that doctors have a much better understanding on how to treat the virus so less people are dying from it.
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| cardiff eagle 09 Oct 20 9.04am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Fair point however in this case I am referring to corona virus admissions specifically so you can only compare those on a weekly basis. I think the good news about death rates is that doctors have a much better understanding on how to treat the virus so less people are dying from it. The thing with looking at coronavirus cases in isolation is that it can be Unnecessarily scary. As harsh as it sounds, if an 80 year old dies of Covid rather than flu this year, that’s not reason to enforce harsh restrictions in my view. If however it’s the case that large numbers of non vulnerable people who otherwise would’ve been perfectly healthy and fine, then fair enough with restrictions. And yes that’s good news for sure. I personally would like to see some lifting of restrictions in line with this.
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| W12 09 Oct 20 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
But is it rising more sharply than hospital admissions normally would at this time of year? That’s the measure we should care about. That and excess deaths. Anything else is just noise. Note: I don’t know if they are or aren’t. I just want the right comparator to be used. I'm genuinely baffled at most people's refusal to see behind what's actually going on with this "pandemic". It's a measure of what can be achieved through the spread of fear alone especially in an already divided society. I'm a nationalist by political persuasion but don't see this as a political issue. Although we can all argue what is meant by freedom, we are literally having any kind of freedom removed by foreign influence under a government of occupation and all people are worried about is what the state will give them or take away from them. It's all being done in plain site and most people are going along with it.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 09 Oct 20 9.29am |
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Originally posted by W12
I'm genuinely baffled at most people's refusal to see behind what's actually going on with this "pandemic". It's a measure of what can be achieved through the spread of fear alone especially in an already divided society. I'm a nationalist by political persuasion but don't see this as a political issue. Although we can all argue what is meant by freedom, we are literally having any kind of freedom removed by foreign influence under a government of occupation and all people are worried about is what the state will give them or take away from them. It's all being done in plain site and most people are going along with it. I literally have no idea what you are on about. Who is this foreign influence who are removing our freedoms? I’m genuinely interested
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| W12 09 Oct 20 9.56am | |
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It's about "building back better" and "the new normal" and what that means. "Stakeholder capitalism" - everything viewed as an economic commodity. This is what the people who currently run the world want for us. They already have huge power but are looking to consolidate that with a global technocracy. You just need to invest some time seeking out alternative views than you are being fed (by these same people) and most importantly doing your own research. None of these plans are hidden. This is a great starter but you need to invest some real time reading beyond the headlines:
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| W12 09 Oct 20 10.06am | |
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Another way to represent this essentially the nazi regime was the state taking over control of banking and corporations and this is the opposite. This is global capital and corporations taking over nation states in order to remove the ability of ordinary citizens to vote or rise up against it. All done under the auspices of the UN, WEF, EU, World Bank, WHO, Federal Reserve, NGO's etc
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Oct 20 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I take the point about the more you test the more you will find however the number I look at is how many people are being admitted to hospital and there is no doubt that this is rising quite sharply. What we do about it I don't know the experts don't seem to agree either. From what I e seen it isn’t rising sharply but that’s what the tv keep telling me.
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cryrst  The garden of England 09 Oct 20 1.44pm |
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Dr hilary on TV says only one half of one % of the world has had it.
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