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 Stirlingsays  31 Mar 17 6.47pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 31 Mar 17 6.52pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No. Are you saying anyone who voted to leave so that immigration goes down won't be pished off about Davis's admission? I wouldn't call that extrapolating anything. The thing is that immigration policy and rules will now be decided by the British government rather than unelected EU Commissioners. We can elect British governments.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Mar 17 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Are you saying that Davis will be in power once we actually leave the EU and these realities start to bite....2018 onwards and the twenties beyond. Would you say that Davies would agree with how you are interpreting him? You are extrapolating and calling others stupid for doing the same.
For those saying we can vote them out, what are the reasons for what Davis has said and will the same reasons still be there after he has gone. Hrolf thinks we should get British people to have more kids instead of relying on immigration to help keep the economy afloat, but surely replacing every immigrant with a newborn brit will still lead to the same increase in population. I'm not sure that Hrolf realises how much the planets population is growing, but having more kids to replace others is going to increase the population even further!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Mar 17 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The thing is that immigration policy and rules will now be decided by the British government rather than unelected EU Commissioners. We can elect British governments. Wouldn't that mean renegotiating trade deals every time there is a new government. If freedom of movement is a requisite of any trade deals that is.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 31 Mar 17 7.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Wouldn't that mean renegotiating trade deals every time there is a new government. If freedom of movement is a requisite of any trade deals that is. That is a very big if, can't see Britain agreeing to any commitments on immigration.
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 17 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
For those saying we can vote them out, what are the reasons for what Davis has said and will the same reasons still be there after he has gone. Hrolf thinks we should get British people to have more kids instead of relying on immigration to help keep the economy afloat, but surely replacing every immigrant with a newborn brit will still lead to the same increase in population. I'm not sure that Hrolf realises how much the planets population is growing, but having more kids to replace others is going to increase the population even further! Actually what I thought Davis said was that the country would have the power to raise and lower immigration in line with what its requirements were. Any intelligent interpretation of what he said about numbers not going down was more not to scare the business horses and gift those with agendas another whip. Still it doesn't seem to matter what is said to the old remoaners. They are just desperate to get back to bending over for the EU. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2017 7.43pm)
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| Stirlingsays 31 Mar 17 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
For those saying we can vote them out, what are the reasons for what Davis has said and will the same reasons still be there after he has gone. Hrolf thinks we should get British people to have more kids instead of relying on immigration to help keep the economy afloat, but surely replacing every immigrant with a newborn brit will still lead to the same increase in population. I'm not sure that Hrolf realises how much the planets population is growing, but having more kids to replace others is going to increase the population even further! The British only need to replace themselves.....whereas at the moment we have inviting in 300, 000 new people a year....a population the size of Newcastle year on year. On this issue alone the remainers are almost criminal for voting in....the affect it has been having on our infrastructure is outrageous. Sure there are groups without our immigrants who have far higher birth rates than others (just gotta ensure they can't be kicked out while not integrating). I would find some non violent way of ensuring that the Islamic population of Britain never went further than ten percent.....Otherwise secularism itself in this country would eventually come under threat.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Mar 17 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Actually what I thought Davis said was that the country would have the power to raise and lower immigration in line with what its requirements were. Any intelligent interpretation of what he said about numbers not going down was more not to scare the business horses and gift those with agendas another whip. Still it doesn't seem to matter what is said to the old remoaners. They are just desperate to get back to bending over for the EU. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2017 7.43pm) A link to report and video. Immigration levels will sometimes rise after Brexit, says David Davis He's sensibly said that immigration would meet need and it will rise and fall. I saw that the Sun are up in arms about Davis's remarks. Edited by nickgusset (31 Mar 2017 8.39pm)
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Kermit8  Hevon 31 Mar 17 7.57pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Yes. Those dreams of silly things like setting our own tax rate. Of making our own laws. So stupid. Such ruinous. Irrational! I've come to the conclusion you are toxic, Kermit. You want nothing more than to see this country burn, to gain satisfaction that you were right. You will (mis)report each and every stumbling block on the way, in a pathetic bid to validate your narrow views. How every sad and petty you are. If you think mentioning the status of Gibraltar makes me 'petty', the lies about the NHS 'petty', the fact that LLoyds is opening an outlet in Brussels affecting scores of jobs, directly because of Article 50 being invoked, 'petty' and all the other things to come that, no doubt, you will think of being 'petty' because I dare mention them and upset poor little you then you need get your big, fat, arrogant head out of your arse and look up see what is going on and try and be rational about it. You get upset way too easily and your name-calling just tells me you are getting the wobbles. And when you are unplugging your butt please also take your fingers out of your ears and stop singing 'la,la,la,la - don't want to hear any negative stuff' - Poor love "I hope we don't fail" - you say? (a few posts back) Well, it wasn't that long ago that you were writing 2,000 word essays on here on how it was going to be impossible to fail. What's changed your tune? You're the toxic one with your fantasist, utopian no-EU ideology and do you know what's really laughable? You just have not an ounce of self-awareness to know it. I do think your obsession with right-wing blogs and newspapers has somewhat brainwashed you tbh. Anyway, thanks for the coming Hard Brexit. The support of. Edited by Kermit8 (31 Mar 2017 8.08pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 31 Mar 17 8.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Keep bending over to your EU political heartthrob Kermy. Yep, pro EU Tory leaders signed us deeper in the EU BEFORE Brown and Blair took us even deeper. These were never popular decisions within the Tory party outside of the leadership...Remember Major and his 'b******s' comment...Unlike in your Labour party or left whatever it is that you support....They have their arses in the air quicker then the EU can get its pants down. Thatcher never wanted the EU that we had today....For you to even suggest that would be a pure untruth....If that's what you are saying. As soon as the Tories had a chance they gave us the opportunity to show EU lovers like yourself that democracy matters to some. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2017 5.44pm) Your post makes me smile, stirling. Brown and Blair never signed anything to take us in deeper. That fait accompli was accomplished by The Tories. You want to blame The Left for the things you criticise in regard to the UK/EU relationship but you are just going to have to accept the fact it was written by those of a Right persuasion. It just was.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 31 Mar 17 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If you think mentioning the status of Gibraltar makes me 'petty', the lies about the NHS 'petty', the fact that LLoyds is opening an outlet in Brussels affecting scores of jobs, directly because of Article 50 being invoked, 'petty' and all the other things to come that, no doubt, you will think of being 'petty' because I dare mention them and upset poor little you then you need get your big, fat, arrogant head out of your arse and look up see what is going on and try and be rational about it. You get upset way too easily and your name-calling just tells me you are getting the wobbles. And when you are unplugging your butt please also take your fingers out of your ears and stop singing 'la,la,la,la - don't want to hear any negative stuff' - Poor love "I hope we don't fail" - you say? (a few posts back) Well, it wasn't that long ago that you were writing 2,000 word essays on here on how it was going to be impossible to fail. What's changed your tune? You're the toxic one with your fantasist, utopian no-EU ideology and do you know what's really laughable? You just have not an ounce of self-awareness to know it. I do think your obsession with right-wing blogs and newspapers has somewhat brainwashed you tbh. Anyway, thanks for the coming Hard Brexit. The support of. Edited by Kermit8 (31 Mar 2017 8.08pm) Is that it? Is that the extent of the Brexit Armageddon, Jeremiah? Even if these things were true, it is a price well worth paying to be governed by a democratically elected government once again. Edited by hedgehog50 (31 Mar 2017 8.13pm)
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Ketteridge  Brighton 31 Mar 17 8.15pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The thing is that immigration policy and rules will now be decided by the British government rather than unelected EU Commissioners. We can elect British governments. For the majority of immigration we always had control, two thirds of immigration over the last ten years has come from controlled immigration from outside the EU. May has been in charge of those rules since 2010. To be honest when we go to India, China Turkey or anywhere else as part of the trade agreement they will ask for freedom of movement just as we will ask for freedom of movement for UK citizens wanting to get into industry there Edited by Ketteridge (31 Mar 2017 8.20pm)
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