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The moaning about Parish/Hodgson/Freedman thread
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 Den1923  17 Sep 19 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
I can’t believe you don’t understand about the investment and ground. It’s been discussed to the death on here. Just read the financial accounts. to be fair in the accounts it does state that investment in the team is an important part of the clubs strategy to avoid relegation and I think people are rightly saying that have not been happening and would like to know why?
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est1905  17 Sep 19 5.50pm |
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Originally posted by Den1923
to be fair in the accounts it does state that investment in the team is an important part of the clubs strategy to avoid relegation and I think people are rightly saying that have not been happening and would like to know why? This is a fair enough question/point. Parish has persistently insisted the ground redevelopment monies are ringfenced and in no way linked to the transfer fund nor day to day running costs. If this is indeed the case you have to wonder why Palace have not spent hardly any money but saved on wages with the release of out of contract players as well as brought in 45m from the sale of AWB. And before anyone says targets value goes up when their club know its us because we have the AWB money that is complete rubbish. Clubs will always get what they can for their players regardless of how much money the buying club may or may not have to spend. Its a weak and lame excuse trotted out by an out of his depth Freedman that thinks comments like that pull the wool over fans eys.
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| Painter Croydon 18 Sep 19 9.24am |
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Originally posted by est1905
This is a fair enough question/point. Parish has persistently insisted the ground redevelopment monies are ringfenced and in no way linked to the transfer fund nor day to day running costs. If this is indeed the case you have to wonder why Palace have not spent hardly any money but saved on wages with the release of out of contract players as well as brought in 45m from the sale of AWB. And before anyone says targets value goes up when their club know its us because we have the AWB money that is complete rubbish. Clubs will always get what they can for their players regardless of how much money the buying club may or may not have to spend. Its a weak and lame excuse trotted out by an out of his depth Freedman that thinks comments like that pull the wool over fans eys. Cahill, Camarsa and McCarthy were signed in the summer, do you think they play for nothing, any wages saved on players released has been used to pay them.
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| cpj Kent 18 Sep 19 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Painter
Cahill, Camarsa and McCarthy were signed in the summer, do you think they play for nothing, any wages saved on players released has been used to pay them. I think the point is that to most fans those weren't the positions we needed to be getting people in for. We needed a decent striker and 2 full-backs - we got none of those (I still don't count Ayew in that). Camarasa and McCarthy look like they will be squad members at best even though Roy had been after the latter for ages.
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| Painter Croydon 18 Sep 19 9.40am |
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Originally posted by cpj
I think the point is that to most fans those weren't the positions we needed to be getting people in for. We needed a decent striker and 2 full-backs - we got none of those (I still don't count Ayew in that). Camarasa and McCarthy look like they will be squad members at best even though Roy had been after the latter for ages. Dann, Kelly and Tomkins out, so Cahill was a bad signing? This obsession with full backs is a red herring, both current full backs are experienced with Kelly, Reiderweld and Schlupp as cover.
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| CrazyBadger Ware 18 Sep 19 10.25am |
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Originally posted by Painter
Cahill, Camarsa and McCarthy were signed in the summer, do you think they play for nothing, any wages saved on players released has been used to pay them. Someone should tell Roy we signed them in the summer, I'm not sure he realises it either!
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Sep 19 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
Dann, Kelly and Tomkins out, so Cahill was a bad signing? This obsession with full backs is a red herring, both current full backs are experienced with Kelly, Reiderweld and Schlupp as cover. The full back problem is far from a red herring. Ward has been a good servant and Van Aanholt is good going forward but neither are that good. Frankly, the cover you mention there is absolutely dire. There will inevitably be injuries and we will suffer.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 18 Sep 19 1.50pm |
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Take Note Roy: [Link]
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| EddieMac 18 Sep 19 3.28pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Take Note Roy: [Link] I don't think Roy has to take note. 99 percent of those players will be getting a desk job soon enough. They are not good enough and that's that.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 18 Sep 19 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
I don't think Roy has to take note. 99 percent of those players will be getting a desk job soon enough. They are not good enough and that's that. Not from what I have seen in the younger players. Even Mark Bright is sure there are a couple of good players he watches. You have to give them a chance to see what they can do ....Just like other clubs do. Wan Bissaka was given a chance when we had lots of injuries and looked what happened there.
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| JohnB 18 Sep 19 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Not from what I have seen in the younger players. Even Mark Bright is sure there are a couple of good players he watches. You have to give them a chance to see what they can do ....Just like other clubs do. Wan Bissaka was given a chance when we had lots of injuries and looked what happened there. Richard Shaw: Crystal Palace under-23s boss Richard Shaw does not believe any of the current crop of youngsters have the ability to break into the Premier League side. Shaw said: "The harsh reality is , the guys here aren't going to make it here at Crystal Palace. The harsh reality is the guys aren't going to make it in the Premier League, it's tough it's hard. "The reality is they might make in League One League Two, league five, the National Conference because that's a good league now."
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Sep 19 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Not from what I have seen in the younger players. Even Mark Bright is sure there are a couple of good players he watches. You have to give them a chance to see what they can do ....Just like other clubs do. Wan Bissaka was given a chance when we had lots of injuries and looked what happened there. Out of interest who are the younger players that you have seen that are ready for the first team and in genuine competition for a place ? Like it or not, when you are scrapping for points and in the race to get to 36 or whatever you consider safe these days, it’s unlikely the manager is going to take a chance on youth. If they do then it’s likely to be an outstanding individual that is being pushed by his coach. I haven’t seen evidence that Richard Shaw is doing that for any of his players right now.
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