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 Penge Eagle  Beckenham 15 Jun 18 11.31am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Maybe because, as we have seen on this thread, there is no evidence that Muslims/Asians are more likely to groom than any other cultural group? The only time this thread has ever threatened to become fact based you lot have come up with nothing. Grow up and find something else to moan about. Here is the fact you refuse to acknowledge: 'British-pakistani researchers say 84% of grooming gang members are Asian: It's very important we talk about it' [Link]
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| dannyboy1978 15 Jun 18 11.34am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Interesting article for all the racists on here to maul over. Call them what you want but they arnt grooming children.
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| dannyboy1978 15 Jun 18 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Lets just claim you lot are right, lets assume he isnt a racist, a football hooligan or trying to stir up racial hatred....the lads a tw@t, cant you find someone with brains to rally behind? He is aan mindless reactionary that repeatedly breaks the law for views and attention and then plays race cards as soon as it goes wrong. He spouts childlike simplistic one liners and has no concept of society as a whole. Listening to him debate is like watching the drunk guy at the bar shouting a point that he is too drunk to put into words... If you are anti EU or right wing or even just a good old fashioned racist, he is about the worst possible person you could look up to. Its the 21st century, ditch him and look up to someone that is actually capable of fighting your corner... That's your opinion which your entitled to have but why won't you respect people who have legitamate concerns ? This problem isn't made up !!
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 15 Jun 18 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Lets just claim you lot are right, lets assume he isnt a racist, a football hooligan or trying to stir up racial hatred....the lads a tw@t, cant you find someone with brains to rally behind? He is aan mindless reactionary that repeatedly breaks the law for views and attention and then plays race cards as soon as it goes wrong. He spouts childlike simplistic one liners and has no concept of society as a whole. Listening to him debate is like watching the drunk guy at the bar shouting a point that he is too drunk to put into words... If you are anti EU or right wing or even just a good old fashioned racist, he is about the worst possible person you could look up to. Its the 21st century, ditch him and look up to someone that is actually capable of fighting your corner... This is the problem, the middle class don't really care enough as they don't live in places like Luton. But maybe Tommy has more than a passing interest because one of his relatives was the victim of an Asian grooming gang and his uncle's friend was murdered by a group of Asians. Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Jun 2018 11.39am)
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Park Road  15 Jun 18 11.43am |
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Why whites aren't the most racist people.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 15 Jun 18 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
Interesting article for all the racists on here to maul over. So the people who don't agree with you are racist? Leftie bingo! Nice bit of race baiting by the Guardian in that article. I don't know if Polish, Hungarians and Bulgarians living in the UK have ever been referred to as ex-pats. Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Jun 2018 11.50am)
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| Beanyboysmd 15 Jun 18 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Robinson has given a speech to the Oxford union. I think you are buying into lefty echo chambers. And like most lefties I bet you haven't watched his videos. Sure he is working class but he's more articulate than many. 'I bet the other side are uneducated...' trully the thought process that will result in nobody ever switching sides... Truth is whether you like it or not, I have lived in the same world you have, seen the same news you have and been exposed to all that is great and crap in the world just like you and have cone to a different conclusion, you can dismiss the other side as 'well clearly you are not paying attention' but thats the mindset that will just make people double down on their beliefs... Tony Robinson did speak at Oxford but so did Geofry from game of thrones! Oxford prides itself in allowing everyone to cone in and make their point, unfortunatly that is something becoming more and more rare...but the point is that him being there doesnt give him any more or less credibility. As for him talking, unfortunatly I have, and he is dreadful. He has one point with any credibility and thats 'muslim rape gangs' so all he does is tries to bring that up over and over again, he doesnt have any other points to make. And the problem is that all his supoorters do the same thing, I can guarentee that I wont have to look very far on this thread to find someone who will change any subject so they can bring up 'muslim rape gangs' again. Edited by Beanyboysmd (15 Jun 2018 11.50am)
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| Stirlingsays 15 Jun 18 11.58am |
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
'I bet the other side are uneducated...' trully the thought process that will result in nobody ever switching sides... Truth is whether you like it or not, I have lived in the same world you have, seen the same news you have and been exposed to all that is great and crap in the world just like you and have cone to a different conclusion, you can dismiss the other side as 'well clearly you are not paying attention' but thats the mindset that will just make people double down on their beliefs... Tony Robinson did speak at Oxford but so did Geofry from game of thrones! Oxford prides itself in allowing everyone to cone in and make their point, unfortunatly that is something becoming more and more rare...but the point is that him being there doesnt give him any more or less credibility. As for him talking, unfortunatly I have, and he is dreadful. He has one point with any credibility and thats 'muslim rape gangs' so all he does is tries to bring that up over and over again, he doesnt have any other points to make. And the problem is that all his supoorters do the same thing, I can guarentee that I wont have to look very far on this thread to find someone who will change any subject so they can bring up 'muslim rape gangs' again. Edited by Beanyboysmd (15 Jun 2018 11.50am) You don't really know squat about Robinson do you? He's made plenty of other points. Radicalization in the mosques, to Islamic interference within schools in Birmingham to Sharia being used in parallel to settle disputes between Muslims in the UK. You just don't really know what you are talking about. You just echo the lefty thought chamber. You haven't watched his stuff so don't pretend to know his experience. He is articulate enough for people who aren't snobs. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jun 2018 11.59am)
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| Stirlingsays 15 Jun 18 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Park Road
Why whites aren't the most racist people.
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| Beanyboysmd 15 Jun 18 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
This is the problem, the middle class don't really care enough as they don't live in places like Luton. But maybe Tommy has more than a passing interest because one of his relatives was the victim of an Asian grooming gang and his uncle's friend was murdered by a group of Asians. Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Jun 2018 11.39am) Ive been mugged twice by black people but I dont even a slight issue with black people, I just have a major issue with those 2 people. Its so important if you are a victim of anything to not have an issue with the other persons community as a whole.
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| Park Road 15 Jun 18 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
We live in a world today where opinions, word-of-mouth, and rumours are taken at face-value? Is a sound bite (you are racist),or an inflammable statistic (All DFLA are racist)more valued and more important than plain fact? Edited by Park Road (15 Jun 2018 12.44pm)
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 15 Jun 18 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by Beanyboysmd
Ive been mugged twice by black people but I dont even a slight issue with black people, I just have a major issue with those 2 people. Its so important if you are a victim of anything to not have an issue with the other persons community as a whole. I agree with that. However, I was just giving an insight on what might have started his thought process into fighting Islamism in the UK. Quote
The whole 'rape gang' thing is a very inconvenient reality that society has overlooked for...probably decades now. I would never and will never deny that, the issue is that people are using it as a flag to rally the true gutter racists. There is no evidence of a momentum of gutter racists due to Tommy Robinson. A couple of f***wits photographed (which the media lapped up) does not represent the cause. And Islam is not a race anyway. Again, if you knew anything about Tommy, you will know that far right groups have actually been targeting him. Quote
Tony Robinson is hurting your cause, because like it or not the battle between left and right will never end but anyone in the middle will take whatever side Tony Robinson isnt on, and stopping rape gangs is one of the few things that everyone can agree on regardless of politics... Yes people will agree on it – but after the damage has been done and it's too late. The police, councils, government and media have ignored it due to political correctness and will continue to do so. That is the issue. Edited by Penge Eagle (15 Jun 2018 12.54pm)
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