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TUX redhill 07 Jun 15 6.02pm
Quote Jamesrichards8 at 06 Jun 2015 12.34am Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 11.20pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jun 2015 10.45pm Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 10.16pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.11pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 10.04pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.01pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 9.55pm [Link] Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria! Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed. Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all. Christ on a bike! You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us. Speculation. Personally I feel there would have been far less wars. Also speculation. Well that's absolute bulls*. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of se if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm) So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really? I'd be more full of s had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough. You're a fool.** Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success. We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.
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Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria!

Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed.

Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all.
Christ on a bike!

You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us.

Speculation.
Personally I feel there would have been far less wars.
Also speculation.

Well that's absolute bulls***. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of s***e if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm)

So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really?
I'd be more full of s*** had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough.

You're a fool. Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success.

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

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derben 07 Jun 15 6.06pm
Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 06 Jun 2015 12.34am Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 11.20pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jun 2015 10.45pm Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 10.16pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.11pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 10.04pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.01pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 9.55pm [Link] Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria! Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed. Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all. Christ on a bike! You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us. Speculation. Personally I feel there would have been far less wars. Also speculation. Well that's absolute bulls*. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of se if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm) So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really? I'd be more full of s had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough. You're a fool.** Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success. We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. Here is list of wars 1945-1989. [Link] How many did the USA cause?
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Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria!

Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all.
Christ on a bike!

You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us.

Speculation.
Personally I feel there would have been far less wars.
Also speculation.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm)

So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really?
I'd be more full of s*** had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough.

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

Here is list of wars 1945-1989.

[Link]

How many did the USA cause?

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 15 6.11pm
Quote derben at 07 Jun 2015 6.06pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 06 Jun 2015 12.34am Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 11.20pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jun 2015 10.45pm Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 10.16pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.11pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 10.04pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.01pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 9.55pm [Link] Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria! Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed. Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all. Christ on a bike! You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us. Speculation. Personally I feel there would have been far less wars. Also speculation. Well that's absolute bulls*. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of se if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm) So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really? I'd be more full of s had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough. You're a fool.** Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success. We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. Here is list of wars 1945-1989. [Link] How many did the USA cause? What about the years 89 to now?
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Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria!

Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all.
Christ on a bike!

You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us.

Speculation.
Personally I feel there would have been far less wars.
Also speculation.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm)

So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really?
I'd be more full of s*** had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough.

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

Here is list of wars 1945-1989.

[Link]

How many did the USA cause?

What about the years 89 to now?

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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 15 6.11pm
Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. It's perhaps understandable when people get annoyed with people with your kind of opinions. Without the US's involvement you just wouldn't of course have the freedom to express your anti US rubbish. I criticise the US of course.....I don't think I can ever really get over their actions after accidentally destroying that Iranian airliner. Still, the US are our cousins and they are the closest to us in intelligence and many other areas......We need them and they need us. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

It's perhaps understandable when people get annoyed with people with your kind of opinions.

Without the US's involvement you just wouldn't of course have the freedom to express your anti US rubbish.

I criticise the US of course.....I don't think I can ever really get over their actions after accidentally destroying that Iranian airliner.

Still, the US are our cousins and they are the closest to us in intelligence and many other areas......We need them and they need us.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 15 6.13pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Jun 2015 6.11pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. It's perhaps understandable when people get annoyed with people with your kind of opinions. Without the US's involvement you just wouldn't of course have the freedom to express your anti US rubbish. I criticise the US of course.....I don't think I can ever really get over their actions after accidentally destroying that Iranian airliner. Still, the US are our cousins and they are the closest to us in intelligence and many other areas......We need them and they need us. When you say intelligence, do you mean iq or the made up wmd sort?
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Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

It's perhaps understandable when people get annoyed with people with your kind of opinions.

Without the US's involvement you just wouldn't of course have the freedom to express your anti US rubbish.

I criticise the US of course.....I don't think I can ever really get over their actions after accidentally destroying that Iranian airliner.

Still, the US are our cousins and they are the closest to us in intelligence and many other areas......We need them and they need us.

When you say intelligence, do you mean iq or the made up wmd sort?

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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 15 6.14pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jun 2015 6.11pm What about the years 89 to now? Hang on....You can't cherry pick periods and still be considered sensible. Err....Shall we choose, 1775-83......Bah....Nonsense. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Jun 2015 6.11pm

What about the years 89 to now?

Hang on....You can't cherry pick periods and still be considered sensible.

Err....Shall we choose, 1775-83......Bah....Nonsense.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 15 6.14pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Jun 2015 6.13pm When you say intelligence, do you mean iq or the made up wmd sort? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Jun 2015 6.13pm

When you say intelligence, do you mean iq or the made up wmd sort?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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TUX redhill 07 Jun 15 6.15pm
Quote derben at 07 Jun 2015 6.06pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 06 Jun 2015 12.34am Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 11.20pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jun 2015 10.45pm Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 10.16pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.11pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 10.04pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.01pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 9.55pm [Link] Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria! Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed. Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all. Christ on a bike! You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us. Speculation. Personally I feel there would have been far less wars. Also speculation. Well that's absolute bulls*. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of se if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm) So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really? I'd be more full of s had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough. You're a fool. Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success. We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. Here is list of wars 1945-1989.** [Link] How many did the USA cause? I mentioned 'Global Conflict'. Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post.
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Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria!

Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all.
Christ on a bike!

You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us.

Speculation.
Personally I feel there would have been far less wars.
Also speculation.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm)

So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really?
I'd be more full of s*** had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough.

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

Here is list of wars 1945-1989.

[Link]

How many did the USA cause?

I mentioned 'Global Conflict'.
Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post.

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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 15 6.20pm
Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.15pm I mentioned 'Global Conflict'. Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post. 'Global Conflict'. Who are you Tux? The UN? Oh and who pays by far the most for the UN to run...More than two times the amount of the next biggest which is itself he pro US country of Japan...I wonder which country it is funding the UN.....The UN peace keeping forces that work around the world....The UN that saves thousands of lives every year, has helped improve Africa considerably, child deaths down....Oh yes....I believe that country paying for the UN is your hated country of choice.....America. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2015 6.22pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.15pm

I mentioned 'Global Conflict'.
Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post.

'Global Conflict'.

Who are you Tux? The UN?

Oh and who pays by far the most for the UN to run...More than two times the amount of the next biggest which is itself he pro US country of Japan...I wonder which country it is funding the UN.....The UN peace keeping forces that work around the world....The UN that saves thousands of lives every year, has helped improve Africa considerably, child deaths down....Oh yes....I believe that country paying for the UN is your hated country of choice.....America.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2015 6.22pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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derben 07 Jun 15 6.21pm
Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.15pm Quote derben at 07 Jun 2015 6.06pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 06 Jun 2015 12.34am Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 11.20pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jun 2015 10.45pm Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 10.16pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.11pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 10.04pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.01pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 9.55pm [Link] Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria! Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed. Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all. Christ on a bike! You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us. Speculation. Personally I feel there would have been far less wars. Also speculation. Well that's absolute bulls*. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of se if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm) So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really? I'd be more full of s had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough. You're a fool. Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success. We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. Here is list of wars 1945-1989. [Link] How many did the USA cause? I mentioned 'Global Conflict'. Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post. It was the only list I could find. I could spend hours trying to find list of post 1989 wars but I'm bug**ed if I am going to do that. Fact remains that the USA is not responsible for most wars and they are not imperialists.
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Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria!

Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all.
Christ on a bike!

You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us.

Speculation.
Personally I feel there would have been far less wars.
Also speculation.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm)

So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really?
I'd be more full of s*** had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough.

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

Here is list of wars 1945-1989.

[Link]

How many did the USA cause?

I mentioned 'Global Conflict'.
Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post.

It was the only list I could find. I could spend hours trying to find list of post 1989 wars but I'm bug****ed if I am going to do that. Fact remains that the USA is not responsible for most wars and they are not imperialists.

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TUX redhill 07 Jun 15 6.29pm
Quote derben at 07 Jun 2015 6.21pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.15pm Quote derben at 07 Jun 2015 6.06pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.02pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 06 Jun 2015 12.34am Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 11.20pm Quote Jamesrichards8 at 05 Jun 2015 10.45pm Quote TUX at 05 Jun 2015 10.16pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.11pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 10.04pm Quote derben at 05 Jun 2015 10.01pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Jun 2015 9.55pm [Link] Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria! Yeah, thought it would all be the fault of the great Satan, America, along with all the ills of the world. What a wicked empire they are, the world has never seen such oppression. What a shame that nice USSR didn't persevere with the Socialist Utopia, think how happy we would all be had they prevailed. Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all. Christ on a bike! You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us. Speculation. Personally I feel there would have been far less wars. Also speculation. Well that's absolute bulls*. The USA has made many errors, but don't tell me that it isn't the safest country to allow superpower status. Who would you prefer? Russia? China? Nazi germany? You're full of se if you think any of those reigns of soft power would promote more peace than the United States has overseen. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm) So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really? I'd be more full of s had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough. You're a fool. Those countries may not have started wars with Vietnam or Korea, but don't tell me that the world would be more peaceful overall if China were the leading superpower. In the last 70 years, none of the world's most populous or most economically powerful countries have been at war with one another. I would call that a success. We're all fools whether you like it or not. But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you. The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country. I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron. Here is list of wars 1945-1989. [Link] How many did the USA cause? I mentioned 'Global Conflict'. Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post. It was the only list I could find. I could spend hours trying to find list of post 1989 wars but I'm bug**ed if I am going to do that. Fact remains that the USA is not responsible for most wars and they are not imperialists. I'm sorry that you felt the need to google. You still continually mention 'wars' when I mentioned 'conflict'.
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redhill 07 Jun 15 6.29pm

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Great article from Seamus Milne. Apparently the CIA want(ed) a sunni lead principality bridging Iraq and Syria!

Oh my mistake, nothing to do with the US at all.
Christ on a bike!

You just hate America and will criticise it whatever they do. For all their faults, it there had been a comparable superpower in the last 100 years God help us.

Speculation.
Personally I feel there would have been far less wars.
Also speculation.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (05 Jun 2015 10.45pm)

So the others would've individually manipulated MORE wars than the US has, post WW2? Really?
I'd be more full of s*** had it not been for you and Derben beating me to the trough.

We're all fools whether you like it or not.
But thankfully i'm further down the pecking order than you.

The US has caused more global conflict than any other since the end of WW2 but for some reason you love the country.

I'm happy to be labelled a fool tbh. It beats being a fkn blinkered moron.

Here is list of wars 1945-1989.

[Link]

How many did the USA cause?

I mentioned 'Global Conflict'.
Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post.

It was the only list I could find. I could spend hours trying to find list of post 1989 wars but I'm bug****ed if I am going to do that. Fact remains that the USA is not responsible for most wars and they are not imperialists.

I'm sorry that you felt the need to google.
You still continually mention 'wars' when I mentioned 'conflict'.

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Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Jun 2015 6.20pm Quote TUX at 07 Jun 2015 6.15pm I mentioned 'Global Conflict'. Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post. 'Global Conflict'. Who are you Tux? The UN? Oh and who pays by far the most for the UN to run...More than two times the amount of the next biggest which is itself he pro US country of Japan...I wonder which country it is funding the UN.....The UN peace keeping forces that work around the world....The UN that saves thousands of lives every year, has helped improve Africa considerably, child deaths down....Oh yes....I believe that country paying for the UN is your hated country of choice.....America. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2015 6.22pm) I don't hate anyone or anything. The fact that someone pays more than others means diddly. Often is the case that someone is paying for 'favours'. But as you seem to be so clued up I guess you know that already? And no, i'm not the UN. Are you Blatter?
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redhill 07 Jun 15 6.37pm

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I mentioned 'Global Conflict'.
Regardless of our stances, you're better than that post.

'Global Conflict'.

Who are you Tux? The UN?

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2015 6.22pm)

I don't hate anyone or anything.
The fact that someone pays more than others means diddly.
Often is the case that someone is paying for 'favours'.
But as you seem to be so clued up I guess you know that already?

And no, i'm not the UN. Are you Blatter?

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