There’s also evidence that locking down a week earlier would’ve been worse. But it doesn’t stop Owen Jones scweaming it every time you see him along with ‘the world’s worst death Covid stats’ when it’s political friends within the NHS who’ve been manipulating the truth on Covid deaths we’ll have to wait before the truth is exposed.

At least little pet rodent Owen got the 10pm curfew and student shambles right.

1. How did your friends catch Covid?

2. It’s very normal like from real flu. But now every this blown up out of all proportion. You watch those bars on charts representing other deaths supersede the Covid deaths. And that’s before you have to move thousands out of the Covid deaths columns into the non Covid death columns due to the NHS justifying their policies and their anti Tory politics and making the most of the pay homage to the NHS nonsense that felt suspect not long after it started.

Wrecking millions of lives doesn’t sit well with millions unless it becomes emotive, only you can’t run a country, especially in these times, on emotion, only Boris probably is. He should’ve been booted out already. That ball is rolling and Wancock trying to play tough with the Tory rebels, only for the rebels to grow in strength during numbers tells us what’s about to happen as these power drunk madmen get more carried away this autumn. Going to get very spicy.

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She’s not old. No grey hair, bouncing up and down on a camping chair. If riot police are telling you to move, then you move.

Masks are annoying, but what kind of nutters give up their free time to protest about masks.

As much or more possibility from someone who was wearing a mask, badly, touching it, touching other stuff. And highly unlikely anyway if they weren’t coughing etc.

It could’ve been in a pleasant independent cafe/coffee shop like posh bits of London after the Italian skiing holidays. Likewise the people who went even though they knew about Covid, including private schools that had their children travel all the way back with teachers and come in for a full day at school before contacting parents to keep them at home from 2nd day.

Nah, it’s all down to masks. Jesus Christ. The easiest and simplest measures are quite frankly the worst but oh so easy for government and the virtuous and sanctimonious that would rather not do anything or put themselves in harm’s way. It’s these types that irritate me. The hypocrisy of them is vile. No concern for damage elsewhere either. Cvnts of the highest.

You still believe the mask crap then. Funniest thing I saw today was ‘Hancock is like a s*** footballer goal hanging, knocking the ball over the line as it’s going in anyway and claiming what he’s done has scored the goal and got the result.’

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COYP

You post some interesting stuff Rudi. It's time to learn to live with this virus, it will not be beaten. Viruses have existed almost since the dawn of this planet. And maybe before that. Humans have evolved a billionth of the amount that viruses have. I'd say they have the upper hand in evolutionary adaptabilty. For every vaccine we produce, the virus will get round it. There has never been a vaccine, or any kind of cure for the common cold. And that has been around for more than a couple of decades......

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

I agree we can't beat it but need to live with it. The question now is, will the government admit this?
Because as it stand that means lock down was a waste of time and our economy is in tatters so a U turn is political suicide. The chief scientists have a lot to answer to.

Shield the vounrable
Get back to work

The UN needs to come together, get answers about the virus and charge China if they are seen to be up to no good. This could be in the way of voiding debt if they don't play ball.

Not necessarily political suicide seeing as the opposition want more draconian rules. You can also ditch the PM, health minister, medical advisers and introduce a wider range of advisers other than just medical.

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