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Stirlingsays 25 Nov 23 9.33pm | |
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Disingenuous.
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Teddy Eagle 25 Nov 23 9.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
A week’s farm work will usually pay more than that. £100 per day is a reasonable expectation. I am no expert on UC or the whole benefit system but know that housing benefit has covered most of their rent for one of my previous tenants. Exactly how to reform it to achieve the desired outcome is above my pay grade. It’s quite a challenge which is easier to just ignore but is something I believe has to be done. It’s not just unskilled labour who populate the feckless and are milking the benefit system. Those with skills do so too. Nor is it just unskilled jobs that could be filled by them. Take, for instance, someone who has a bad back and knees, but also computer skills. They obviously could not work in the fields but they could on a screen, possibly from home. Wouldn’t that be of greater benefit to society, and to their bank account than, for instance, posting controversial opinions on football websites at all hours? One of my granddaughters has 3 children under 6. She is a mental health nurse and still manages to work full time, as does her husband. She works from home, at hours of her choosing, doing online interviews with those needing initial assessments. So the work is there, organised in ways that people can manage. Some though don’t want to do it. £2000 a month with accommodation provided and no fares doesn't entice anyone? They must be very choosey round your way.
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Nov 23 10.22am | |
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How, on earth, does anyone post 24 hours a day, every day. Are they fed by tubes?
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Teddy Eagle 26 Nov 23 10.29am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
How, on earth, does anyone post 24 hours a day, every day. Are they fed by tubes?
Sometimes in Glasgow. When the roasters are on the ran Dan.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Nov 23 10.50am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Read my post at 11.20 pm yesterday. That describes a situation here in Cornwall. Which is what I see around me. As I do when I drive every working day to our major hospital where a high proportion of the health professionals were recruited from overseas. These people are not so obvious in social settings as they are too busy working. Sure they are, because our wonderful politicians are looking for short term solutions. Many immigrant NHS workers don't.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Nov 23 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Sure they are, because our wonderful politicians are looking for short term solutions. Many immigrant NHS workers don't. I certainly don’t regard the number of overseas workers needed by the NHS as a positive. I just regard it as an essential in the present circumstances. All from overseas who work there have to undergo adaptation courses and pass English competency exams before being given visas.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Nov 23 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
£2000 a month with accommodation provided and no fares doesn't entice anyone? They must be very choosey round your way. It’s not just around here, I think this is a widespread problem. The work is hard and local people don’t want to do it. The problem is the benefit culture which enables people to survive without effort. It’s not simply the unemployed who are involved. Many are able to draw benefits for other reasons when the reality is they could still work in some way, but choose not to. Anyone capable of posting on social media at all hours, who is of working age, is also capable of undertaking some kind of work. The problem with them is that the costs involved in establishing the necessary support, training and verification systems outweighs the costs of just paying them benefits. So the political imperative isn’t there. The moral and long term imperative is though.
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Teddy Eagle 26 Nov 23 3.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s not just around here, I think this is a widespread problem. The work is hard and local people don’t want to do it. The problem is the benefit culture which enables people to survive without effort. It’s not simply the unemployed who are involved. Many are able to draw benefits for other reasons when the reality is they could still work in some way, but choose not to. Anyone capable of posting on social media at all hours, who is of working age, is also capable of undertaking some kind of work. The problem with them is that the costs involved in establishing the necessary support, training and verification systems outweighs the costs of just paying them benefits. So the political imperative isn’t there. The moral and long term imperative is though. My sympathy is always with those who are unemployed, it's a soul destroying situation to be in, but actively refusing work because it's hard? Physical work is generally pretty hard but many manage it however much they might not want to.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Nov 23 3.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I certainly don’t regard the number of overseas workers needed by the NHS as a positive. I just regard it as an essential in the present circumstances. All from overseas who work there have to undergo adaptation courses and pass English competency exams before being given visas. But the reality is somewhat different, as I'm sure you know. My daughter is currently working in an antenatal ward.
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Teddy Eagle 26 Nov 23 3.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s not just around here, I think this is a widespread problem. The work is hard and local people don’t want to do it. The problem is the benefit culture which enables people to survive without effort. It’s not simply the unemployed who are involved. Many are able to draw benefits for other reasons when the reality is they could still work in some way, but choose not to. Anyone capable of posting on social media at all hours, who is of working age, is also capable of undertaking some kind of work. The problem with them is that the costs involved in establishing the necessary support, training and verification systems outweighs the costs of just paying them benefits. So the political imperative isn’t there. The moral and long term imperative is though. A view from the Guardian.
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Stirlingsays 26 Nov 23 4.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But the reality is somewhat different, as I'm sure you know. My daughter is currently working in an antenatal ward. 'English competency' passes. Watching the decline.
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Nov 23 4.48pm | |
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I expect if you go on the internet the answers are there. A mate did some sort of building site safety test and failed (he is dumb) he couldn't work out how the others in the group who could barely speak English passed. One of them took pity on him and gave him the answers cribbed from the internet he retook and passed. Edited by Badger11 (26 Nov 2023 4.48pm)
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