I actually have not heard of Dr Campbell. I must look into this.
I was actually talking about Dr Aseem Malhotra.

You said there were plenty! You have so far found one, very controversial, cardiologist. Who makes money from publishing books and running a private practice. Some of his campaigns aren't controversial. That's the tactic of such people. Offer things that most can agree with and these add gloss to the others that they don't.

One of the first places I found him was in a Dr John Campbell video, which immediately sounded a warning bell. Then I found this, which puts him right in the "not to be trusted" category:-

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There are "plenty"! So let's see a few more.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Sorry, serious about what?

I don't know anything about Dr Campbell and what I have seen of Andrew Bridgen does not impress me that much, like most of todays politians.

The reason I posted the clip was for what he said. He was quoting the govenments own data and raised questions that would need to be answered, imho.

I'mn not a fan of Donald Trump but on the occassions that I feel he has said something truthful or important, I say, far enough.

A genuine question. did you actually watch the clip and do you think that what Andrew bridgen said in his March address to parliment, should be dismissed because you think he is a conspiracy theorist?

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

This is absolutely spurious and quite frankly despicable claims and also sadly quite typical from you.

Perhaps you could state what Campbell's 'controversial views' are? Pretty much all his conclusions are based upon official governmental data. If this guy was anything like what you say then he would have been banned during the most censorious covid period yet he never was. So, seeing as you seem so sure of yourself then let's hear what these views are then that readers could judge your capacity to be rational on this.

I bet you don't even know and would have to research it. I suggest are just an almost addictive establishment mouthpiece primed to just attack any position that differs from your slavish adherence.

Dr Campbell has been making educational videos on Youtube for over a decade and unlike you has been in a profession that actually helps people most of his life. The very reason he has millions of viewers is precisely because he is respected by and well known and anyone who actually watches his content will quickly find he is very much driven by a care for people and healthcare.

Campbell never told people not to take vaccines, he took these vaccines himself. He has been investigating the situation around the covid situation along with other professionals and quite frankly people like him are needed. If we want to know what you think we can just ask the pharmaceutical companies.

I urge anyone reading this to watch his content and then read Wisbech's quite awful claims and see if they match. I bid that you will come to the conclusion that Wisbech, while obviously intelligent is obviously damaged in other ways.

Also I have to say for a ex marketing manager and now landlord to complain about people who 'follow the money'...oh boy, ok, we all need to make a living but man oh man, I suggest that's some more serious projection on your part.

Rather than Campbell I repeat it's actually you who have put misinformation onto this site and then made excuses for yourself. It is you who told people to follow advice from organisations that have since proven to be less than accurate. I was accused by you of misinformation when in reality my positions were...as far as I can tell...the very opposite of inaccurate.

Regardless I also, and importantly, always advocated for people making their own personal health decisions and taking responsibility for those decisions and their own health like all adults should do. You on the other hand cannot claim the same and called for people like me to be punished by the state.

I also refrained for criticising anybody for whichever one of those personal vaccine decisions they made for themselves. Whatever choice someone made they were making some kind of risk by the very nature of this new novel virus being here. It wasn't easy on anyone and everyone's personal situation is bespoke to them.

I have, like many...including those who have taken these vaccines, heavily criticised vaccines being given to children who have no real risk of dying from this virus and the heavy pressure put onto young people to take vaccines for other people....something that should have always been a personal decision without external pressure and goes against our original medical ethics.

I look forward to the eventual inquiries and summaries of what I regard as an extremely and economically generationally damaging period of madness and panic and I have the distinct impression that those who come in for reasoned criticism won't have held my positions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Apr 2023 1.10pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I am not even going to try to answer every point in this long apology for someone who I believe started off well-meaning but has been corrupted by the rich vein of easy money that he stumbled upon.

He has made over 2000 videos, which have become increasingly virulent over the years. I haven't them all. Indeed I haven't watched many but I have watched enough and I can see a clear trend. What started honourably has morphed into a cash cow. Yes, he uses government statistics for they are generally all that's available, but he, like the others who tread this path, select and interpret them to tell their own story.

If people want to watch them, fine, but when they do I urge them to keep in mind that as they do they are contributing to making this guy seriously wealthy and to question why he might be doing this. He is clever, he adds caveats and leaves doubts hanging, so can avoid accusations of spreading the kind of lies that result in bans.

For sure we need objective criticism examining everything that impacts our lives. Nothing but good comes from that. However, that criticism needs to be made by people who are competent to make it and their criticism must also be subject to criticism and peer review.

If criticism is motivated not by a desire to discover the truth but by a desire to make money, then criticism of it is deserved.

I cannot recall one genuine expert in this field giving any support to Dr John Campbell. Genuine experts don't make YouTube videos. They spend their time finding out things. Not trying to destroy what others have found.

Things like whether the vaccines should be given to children, or not, have never been black-or-white decisions. So both viewpoints are respectable and to claim that one is right, and the other wrong, is to claim an unjustified intellectual superiority. We don't know, so we have to leave it to those with better knowledge to make the best judgements they can and then to support them in their difficult job. Barrack room lawyers always think they know best.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

So Wisbech has nothing....he was asked for what Campbell's 'controversial views' were and all he comes back with is waffle.

Dr John Campbell has had many experts on his show and once again this claim....which is misinformation... that there aren't experts in these medical fields who differ from what has gone is untrue.

For example, some of the highest qualified people in their fields are on the Great Barrington Delacaration.....so stop spreading misinformation.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)