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georgenorman 09 Feb 22 3.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Wants us to live in a different world......loves change....tells you to embrace it. Moves to Cornwall. It's like a comedy. Yes, the likes of Wisbelch and Billy Bragg retreat to affluent enclaves maintaining their homogeneous culture while pronouncing on the benefits of diversity.
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The Dolphin 09 Feb 22 3.50pm | |
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Also interesting that - if reports are to be believed - that only a few protestors mentioned Saville - the rest had a pop at Starmer about vaccinations, "fake opposition", "traitor", "disgrace" and asking him "why aren't you opposing the government? It's your job"
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 4.09pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
At the end of the day if someone wants to launch the a 'no or low immigration party' I don't see that there would be a fundamental issue with that, and think it would probably be approved by the electoral commission. That is about the extent of it as you can reason to people on various fronts (housing etc), while also (for 'some' of those people) have a racial aspect in mind. It's called being realistic. However, this racist's chocolate box reality where British non white born children are somehow second rate and that even parties that intend or wish for their removal based on that fact alone somehow have validity to them, is a pipe dream of the warped. An affront to the dignity of others and a direct attack on the rights of people who have no less right to be here as anyone else. The Internet has a lot to answer for. This pick your own reality world to extremes, that either results in people feeling mortally wounded if they can't have their 56 gender changes of a morning given an official seal of approval, or childlike views and demands on race to the extent that even bore most of those of their own race half to death.. And let's not get started on the creepy buttering up and half truths directed at those susceptible to this nonsense. I mean really. I've said before on here that my partner is black. It's ridiculous that I'm taken to task on here for not wanting to go along with this tripe. Maybe I should ship all and any future generations off to a 'homeland' they've never been to and have zero connection to? There are practical realities in life. Live within them. Edited by BlueJay (09 Feb 2022 3.26pm) Have you actually read the manifesto? Because no one is 'shipped off' who doesn't choose that option. You can deny the right of representation just as the undemocratic commission can as much as they like...I view it as ethically indefensible myself and if it continues it will probably go to court....It seeks to deny a political voice to a growing movement and I don't think that is at all healthy or realistic but if that's what you think is going to work then..... It's doesn't really matter anyway as the representation is inevitable. It just delays as the genie was out of the bottle a long time ago. The inevitable consequences of multi culturalism will play out once the demographics even out. The largest minority group in the UK is east Asian, and they are slowly mass populating the midlands and other areas. They are, in their own particular way, socially conservative due to their religion and it's only a matter of time before they feel confident enough to emerge from under the protective wing of the political progressives....The left currently rely on their votes in several areas....but plenty of left wing policies are directly against their culture and so eventually once the numbers are there for automony a political split is going to happen. If they are denied they will force through demands for their own political party and greater autonomy.....and unfortunately it would probably involve force which would become 'them and us' pretty quickly. Anyway I see compromise and some form of regional political representation where they have their own autonomy...a state within a state if you like....the violence will probably reduce for a time. Anyway at that stage it's going to be highly difficult to deny similar identity groups their own representations. The actual deporting policies that you seem so opposed to are in reality unlikely to happen...if they are even around then. It will just be about community, much as it is now. That's the eventual future for Britain and probably other parts of Europe that if neo/social liberalism continues to reign..... balkanisation both economic and ethnic...which has been happening for decades anyway and then eventual states within states. The global elites will try to stop it of course....anything that reduces their power will be opposed....but while they usually get their way....here I don't see them succeeding. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 4.13pm)
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 4.14pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Yes, the likes of Wisbelch and Billy Bragg retreat to affluent enclaves maintaining their homogeneous culture while pronouncing on the benefits of diversity. Oh yes...Billy Bragg, the progressives's Tommy Robinson without the court cases. Singing songs of working class oppression while living very nicely......like Irish Americans singing romantic myths about the old homeland. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 7.00pm)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Feb 22 5.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I believe that people should live the politics they advocate for so he shouldn't really be living in a high white majority area, he should live right bang in what his politics advocates for. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 11.16pm) Living the politics they advocate. I think that would be fantastic. People should google PM Terresa May's thwarting of affordable housing next to her private residence. Also, perhaps a mis-use of power. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (09 Feb 2022 5.08pm)
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BlueJay UK 09 Feb 22 5.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Have you actually read the manifesto? Because no one is 'shipped off' who doesn't choose that option. You're pretty gullible if you honestly think that a proposed political party wishing to deport british born non whites to 'homelands' they've never even been to 'by asking them to go' isn't a step along the road to forcing them out if ever in the position to do so. As in other areas these groups say what they need to say. Quote The largest minority group in the UK is east Asian, and they are slowly mass populating the midlands and other areas. They are, in their own particular way, socially conservative due to their religion and it's only a matter of time before they feel confident enough to emerge from under the protective wing of the political progressives....The left currently rely on their votes in several areas....but plenty of left wing policies are directly against their culture and so eventually once the numbers are there for automony a political split is going to happen.
If they are denied they will force through demands for their own political party and greater autonomy...
As I said, an anti immigration party is fair enough to me. That view becomes a matter of opinion, even if zero immigration. You're in a dream world though if you're essentially hoping (but are not brave enough to say) for communities to be extracted from the country. or 'asked to leave'. You are unnecessarily stoking racial division in my view. You are effectively publicly 'asking' my family to leave the country. It's a ludicrous hope and indeed interaction. It helps no person and no cause. Edited by BlueJay (09 Feb 2022 5.46pm)
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BlueJay UK 09 Feb 22 5.12pm | |
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Anyway..... Edited by BlueJay (09 Feb 2022 6.46pm)
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silvertop Portishead 09 Feb 22 6.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Have you actually read the manifesto? Because no one is 'shipped off' who doesn't choose that option. You can deny the right of representation just as the undemocratic commission can as much as they like...I view it as ethically indefensible myself and if it continues it will probably go to court....It seeks to deny a political voice to a growing movement and I don't think that is at all healthy or realistic but if that's what you think is going to work then..... It's doesn't really matter anyway as the representation is inevitable. It just delays as the genie was out of the bottle a long time ago. The inevitable consequences of multi culturalism will play out once the demographics even out. The largest minority group in the UK is east Asian, and they are slowly mass populating the midlands and other areas. They are, in their own particular way, socially conservative due to their religion and it's only a matter of time before they feel confident enough to emerge from under the protective wing of the political progressives....The left currently rely on their votes in several areas....but plenty of left wing policies are directly against their culture and so eventually once the numbers are there for automony a political split is going to happen. If they are denied they will force through demands for their own political party and greater autonomy.....and unfortunately it would probably involve force which would become 'them and us' pretty quickly. Anyway I see compromise and some form of regional political representation where they have their own autonomy...a state within a state if you like....the violence will probably reduce for a time. Anyway at that stage it's going to be highly difficult to deny similar identity groups their own representations. The actual deporting policies that you seem so opposed to are in reality unlikely to happen...if they are even around then. It will just be about community, much as it is now. That's the eventual future for Britain and probably other parts of Europe that if neo/social liberalism continues to reign..... balkanisation both economic and ethnic...which has been happening for decades anyway and then eventual states within states. The global elites will try to stop it of course....anything that reduces their power will be opposed....but while they usually get their way....here I don't see them succeeding. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 4.13pm) South Asia surely? With the increasing Chinese population you may accidentally be also right!
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BlueJay UK 09 Feb 22 6.45pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
South Asia surely? With the increasing Chinese population you may accidentally be also right!
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BlueJay UK 09 Feb 22 6.49pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Queen Camilla and Boris Johnson. Doesn't this also sum up the Queen's reign, a descent into irrelevance and unimportance.
Any chance of getting both of these on a commemorative mug? Asking for a friend.
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 6.57pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
You're pretty gullible if you honestly think that a proposed political party wishing to deport british born non whites to 'homelands' they've never even been to 'by asking them to go' isn't a step along the road to forcing them out if ever in the position to do so. As in other areas these groups say what they need to say. So to you I'm gullible, yet in your head you think that if this group gained power then what they would actually do would be to seek to force people out with violence? I think you're stuck way in the past. That just wouldn't work without a bloodbath. No one I know who is sensible has said this. Originally posted by BlueJay
They can hold socially conservative views if they so wish. The day they want you booted out of the country for your skin colour I'll be sure to have the same attitude as I do when its any other groups wants to do so. You already tried to toss through mistruths about other racial groups already being approved at political groups when that is not the case. Nor would I want any race to be a party that people vote for. That would be divisive nonsense. As I said, an anti immigration party is fair enough to me. That view becomes a matter of opinion, even if zero immigration. You're in a dream world though if you're essentially hoping (but are not brave enough to say) for communities to be extracted from the country. or 'asked to leave'. You are unnecessarily stoking racial division in my view. You are effectively publicly 'asking' my family to leave the country. It's a ludicrous hope and indeed interaction. It helps no person and no cause. Edited by BlueJay (09 Feb 2022 5.46pm) Errr...cheers bro....but being supported by the anti democrat who seeks to deny people's voices because....feelings...Yeah, no worries I'll do without it. Stoking divisions? We just had BLM rioting/protesting in London last summer. You won't find Europeans doing that to their cities because some chap was killed half a world away. I'll try to make this clear....these groups are nowhere near power. Supporting them is about community building, that's going to happen regardless of any commission. Indeed, the only time they could take power would be quite a long way down the road when the policies you want to agitate against wouldn't be practical anyway. Again, I'll make it clear no one is supporting violence.....by suggesting that it's actually you who putting out false information without evidence. Like I say, the policies that enabled multiculturalism are the very ones that have created these divisions, demographic location flows and the rest of it is happening in front of your denying eyes. I'm not stoking anything. It's actually the last thing I wish to do. However, I don't close my eyes to what should really be just obvious observance of the trends out there. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 6.58pm)
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 6.59pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
South Asia surely? With the increasing Chinese population you may accidentally be also right! I stand corrected. The Chinese have their own issues.
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