We weren’t though discussing the total number. Just the impact on the NHS.

So long as the system works as it should there ought to be very few criminals anyway. We obviously need to get a grip on the illegals. Work and student visas aren’t just issued at will to anyone, employers and universities are involved and able to remain vigilant. There will always be some who misuse the system but once we manage the illegals things ought to be better than now.

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Completely untrue. There was nothing ironic about my recent experience.

I know to my cost that telling the truth does not guarantee you win. I did tell the truth, my opponent lied, the judge got it wrong and I lost.

Now without doubt you will choose to disbelieve me. It seems that disbelieving anything I say is a prerequisite of daily life for you, but I was there. You weren’t. I know the truth. You don’t.

I have many friends. Not one of them has the slightest doubt that I am telling the truth and feel really upset at the outcome. They know me. You don’t. They know I am an honourable man. You just like to believe I am not.

My insurance company believes me. So do the Solicitors and the Barrister who represented me. The opinions of my friends and the professionals involved matter to me. Your’s doesn’t.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (02 Mar 2024 8.38pm)

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I realise you are being sarcastic but I have never suggested that telling the truth always wins. I know it doesn’t.

All I said was that it is an obligation placed on a witness. That is the standard we should expect in any honest discussion and not the cherry picking of some facts and the ignoring of others just to support a particular viewpoint.

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EVery time I see " ask my friends " i just laugh

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Off topic but I find it interesting how people classify "friends". I often tell people I don't have any which is untrue I probably have 5/6. I do have a lot of acquaintances but I think I am quite strict in who I actually consider a friend.

An acquaintance (see what I did there) talks about people who he barely knows and rarely see as friends. And of course the social media folk have hundreds of friends they have never met.

Anyway just an observation not directed any anyone in particular.

One more point

One of your most ridiculous posts to date.

'White' people make up about 10% of the world population. They are a small minority globally who have been here for a relatively short time. They are more than entitled to see themselves as a 'group'.

How is being called 'Black' more specific?

Lots of people with not better qualification than a good tan want to call themselves'Black' these days. 'Black' people have a much greater genetic diversity and come from far more cultural backgrounds than anyone else. They have been around a lot longer. How do they get to be a group and White people don't?

You talk out of your backside.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Mar 2024 11.30am)