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 steeleye20  Croydon 25 Nov 23 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So is accepting large-scale immigration a humanitarian action or is it more exploitation of needy people? It's the result of Brexit, as you and other immigration bores here know very well.
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Teddy Eagle  25 Nov 23 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It's the result of Brexit, as you and other immigration bores here know very well. Not an answer.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 23 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Who knew there were that many farms in London. I wasn’t describing a situation in London, or any other city. I am sure though that parallels could be found to describe the same kind of situation, although with accommodation provided there is nothing to stop many people in London seeking work in the countryside. In my youth I had to spend many nights away from home to earn my living.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 25 Nov 23 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I wasn’t describing a situation in London, or any other city. I am sure though that parallels could be found to describe the same kind of situation, although with accommodation provided there is nothing to stop many people in London seeking work in the countryside. In my youth I had to spend many nights away from home to earn my living. Were you asked to stay the night often ?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 23 6.04pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Look around you man. But of course you live in fluffy White Cornwall. Read my post at 11.20 pm yesterday. That describes a situation here in Cornwall. Which is what I see around me. As I do when I drive every working day to our major hospital where a high proportion of the health professionals were recruited from overseas. These people are not so obvious in social settings as they are too busy working.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 23 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Were you asked to stay the night often ? By hotel operators in return for their standard charges, yes.
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| Teddy Eagle 25 Nov 23 6.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I wasn’t describing a situation in London, or any other city. I am sure though that parallels could be found to describe the same kind of situation, although with accommodation provided there is nothing to stop many people in London seeking work in the countryside. In my youth I had to spend many nights away from home to earn my living. So as well as a lack of investment creating a need for trained workers we also need untrained people to do unskilled work.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 23 7.30pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So as well as a lack of investment creating a need for trained workers we also need untrained people to do unskilled work. No we don’t. There’s more than enough unemployed people who could do the work. The problem is they don’t want to do it and prefer to scrape by on benefits. So to get the work done immigrant labour comes in or the crops rot in the fields. The solution is to increase the rate of pay, allow people to retain more of their benefits for a while after they restart work but cut them if they quit. We need to get tough with the benefit culture to eradicate this. We are all, unknowingly perhaps, at fault by expecting cheap foods.
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| Teddy Eagle 25 Nov 23 7.51pm |
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V to Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No we don’t. There’s more than enough unemployed people who could do the work. The problem is they don’t want to do it and prefer to scrape by on benefits. So to get the work done immigrant labour comes in or the crops rot in the fields. The solution is to increase the rate of pay, allow people to retain more of their benefits for a while after they restart work but cut them if they quit. We need to get tough with the benefit culture to eradicate this. We are all, unknowingly perhaps, at fault by expecting cheap foods. Universal credit up to 25 is £292.11 a month against the same amount for a week's farm work. How much do those wages need to be increased to make the work attract workers?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 23 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
V to Universal credit up to 25 is £292.11 a month against the same amount for a week's farm work. How much do those wages need to be increased to make the work attract workers? A week’s farm work will usually pay more than that. £100 per day is a reasonable expectation. I am no expert on UC or the whole benefit system but know that housing benefit has covered most of their rent for one of my previous tenants. Exactly how to reform it to achieve the desired outcome is above my pay grade. It’s quite a challenge which is easier to just ignore but is something I believe has to be done. It’s not just unskilled labour who populate the feckless and are milking the benefit system. Those with skills do so too. Nor is it just unskilled jobs that could be filled by them. Take, for instance, someone who has a bad back and knees, but also computer skills. They obviously could not work in the fields but they could on a screen, possibly from home. Wouldn’t that be of greater benefit to society, and to their bank account than, for instance, posting controversial opinions on football websites at all hours? One of my granddaughters has 3 children under 6. She is a mental health nurse and still manages to work full time, as does her husband. She works from home, at hours of her choosing, doing online interviews with those needing initial assessments. So the work is there, organised in ways that people can manage. Some though don’t want to do it.
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| Stirlingsays 25 Nov 23 9.04pm |
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Once again, to the hard of remembering. I am not listed amongst the unemployed. Stop spreading misinformation. This guy is in obvious need of an editor and lawyer to check after he types anything. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Nov 2023 9.06pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 23 9.28pm |
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It seems someone might be having a guilt trip. No names were mentioned by me. Just an example of how people can waste time and what might be possible. Familiar examples assist understanding!
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