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 Stirlingsays  09 Dec 20 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
For the answer, try the Millwall forum. I've enough spectator sports as it is.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Dec 20 5.51pm |
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Right, In the spirit of the thread, who is in support of the knee & who is against? Simple Q? a YES or NO answer is required. Can you posters DO That? *Disclaimer, Any answer over 1(one) word will be dicounted. Who has the brains to comply? Im, NO.
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 georgenorman 09 Dec 20 5.57pm |
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No
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| Spiderman Horsham 09 Dec 20 6.02pm |
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No
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| Stirlingsays 09 Dec 20 6.12pm |
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No
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Dec 20 6.14pm |
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No
One more point |
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Dec 20 6.15pm |
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No
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 6.24pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
What over way is there for supporters in the upper tier to express their disapproval of the kneeling gesture? By changing the gesture we have resolved many of the issues that made the players disrespected and the issue of the fans. If anyone boo's the compromise, it would be reasonable to say that they are definitely motivated by racism as its taken away all the excuses they had to hide behind. Most people aren't racist, and just don't want to be associated with the group that went rioting and graffitiing the cenotaph. I dealt with this pages ago. There are plenty of ways if you feel it's so important. What isn't the way is to show the contempt for others that the booing implied which along with it's setting and the history of racial abuse which it has a reputation for was a poor decision. It's not for anyone else to even try to change the gesture. That's for the players alone to decide. They don't visit your workplace and try to disrupt you if you decide you want to do something. No-one wants to be associated with anyone who commits criminal acts, and I feel sure that includes the players. We must not get involved. We have our Police forces to do that. Booing players has no connection of any kind with that. It's an excuse.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 6.31pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You’re still trying to dictate other people’s content. If your issue is that booing the kneeling is disrespectful isn’t it ironic that the gesture itself was designed to be disrespectful by being performed during the playing of the National Anthem? Not at all. You can post erroneous content all you wish. Just expect me to counter it. There is a degree of irony. It was changed from refusing to stand for the flag when Trump pressured the league but the motivation that lay behind it was pure and the symbolism clearly caught the imagination of millions. The fact it is still happening and being discussed is testimony to that.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 09 Dec 20 6.32pm |
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I’m no and so is my wife..
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Teddy Eagle  09 Dec 20 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all. You can post erroneous content all you wish. Just expect me to counter it. There is a degree of irony. It was changed from refusing to stand for the flag when Trump pressured the league but the motivation that lay behind it was pure and the symbolism clearly caught the imagination of millions. The fact it is still happening and being discussed is testimony to that. It wasn’t erroneous. It was a fact that couldn’t be disproved so had to be dismissed as irrelevant.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 7.09pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It wasn’t erroneous. It was a fact that couldn’t be disproved so had to be dismissed as irrelevant. The error is not whether it is a fact or not. The error is in trying to associate it with the history of how and why the gesture grew to be as it is now. It started with Kaepernick. That's the only relevant point. Whether he did so because of flags, anthems, disrespect or because him Mum told him to doesn't matter. He started it. That was what was questioned, nothing else. The players who have taken up the gesture are not showing disrespect to anyone or anything. They have picked up on the motive that lay behind the protest in the first place. They do it before a game. If during the World Cup anyone does it during their own, or their opponents' anthem then I would expect there to be an outrage as that would indeed be disrespectful. Although it might happen by teams who come from countries where there is a history of discrimination and such protests are banned there. Unlikely though as they would risk a lot.
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