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pssguy 06 Sep 19 1.04am
Here's a chart showing just how much of an outlier Hodgson is in terms of introducing subs Edited by pssguy (06 Sep 2019 1.09am) Attachment: firstSub.PNG (20.20Kb)
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06 Sep 19 1.04am

Here's a chart showing just how much of an outlier Hodgson is in terms of introducing subs

Edited by pssguy (06 Sep 2019 1.09am)

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pssguy 06 Sep 19 1.14am
Originally posted by PatrickA An interesting statistic from the Times yesterday. On the Average Age of Starting X1s in the Premier League at the weekend Palace were bottom of the table with an average age not far short of 30 years old (Chelsea were top at 24 years old). We were something like 5th oldest last year for average starting lineup (Wolves were oldest by some way). With Ward replacing Wan-Bissaka and Cahill in, we could be top this year Of course, to Hodgson every player looks young
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06 Sep 19 1.14am

Originally posted by PatrickA

An interesting statistic from the Times yesterday.
On the Average Age of Starting X1s in the Premier League at the weekend Palace were bottom of the table with an average age not far short of 30 years old (Chelsea were top at 24 years old).

We were something like 5th oldest last year for average starting lineup (Wolves were oldest by some way). With Ward replacing Wan-Bissaka and Cahill in, we could be top this year
Of course, to Hodgson every player looks young

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JohnB 06 Sep 19 8.40am
There's a good article in The Athletic with Chris Brunt where he talks quite frankly about the managers he's worked under at WBA which includes, Pulis, Pardew and Hodgson. He hasn't got much good to say about Pulis and Pardew, but his comments on Hodgson say he is the best manager he has ever worked with. Does say that he has little to no interest in players doing tricks etc and is all about the functionality of the team, which sums him the football we've had. Did like the last line on him: “Though obviously he does lose it sometimes, and he’s quite funny when he does!”
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06 Sep 19 8.40am

There's a good article in The Athletic with Chris Brunt where he talks quite frankly about the managers he's worked under at WBA which includes, Pulis, Pardew and Hodgson.

He hasn't got much good to say about Pulis and Pardew, but his comments on Hodgson say he is the best manager he has ever worked with. Does say that he has little to no interest in players doing tricks etc and is all about the functionality of the team, which sums him the football we've had.

Did like the last line on him:

“Though obviously he does lose it sometimes, and he’s quite funny when he does!”

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davehuggins 11 Sep 19 10.23am
Just seen this, I hope SP has taken note RH said "I would like to say that to you but if I'm realistic I'm not certain I can. I think staying in the Premier League is always going to be the be all and end all for us and always going to be a fight, a bit of suffering. There's not going to be rainbows and blue skies and rose coloured spectacles all the way through. There's gong to be plenty of fighting and heartache along the way." I just wish SP would come out and tell us what is going on with the lack of investment both player-wise and stadium. Too much to ask?????
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11 Sep 19 10.23am

Just seen this, I hope SP has taken note RH said "I would like to say that to you but if I'm realistic I'm not certain I can. I think staying in the Premier League is always going to be the be all and end all for us and always going to be a fight, a bit of suffering. There's not going to be rainbows and blue skies and rose coloured spectacles all the way through. There's gong to be plenty of fighting and heartache along the way."
I just wish SP would come out and tell us what is going on with the lack of investment both player-wise and stadium. Too much to ask?????

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taylors lovechild 11 Sep 19 11.37am
Despite his age, Roy does not seem the sentimental type. He is pragmatic in his approach and seems to see the result as the be all and end all. Given his resources I can't really see any manager who could do better. If he sticks with 4-5-1/4-3-3 I think we'll have another solid if unspectacular season. I still want to see Camarasa get a start in the PL though. That seems like the one possibility of something new and exciting (this could of course end like the Meyer dream!)
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Despite his age, Roy does not seem the sentimental type. He is pragmatic in his approach and seems to see the result as the be all and end all. Given his resources I can't really see any manager who could do better. If he sticks with 4-5-1/4-3-3 I think we'll have another solid if unspectacular season. I still want to see Camarasa get a start in the PL though. That seems like the one possibility of something new and exciting (this could of course end like the Meyer dream!)

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Painter Croydon 11 Sep 19 12.20pm
Originally posted by davehuggins Just seen this, I hope SP has taken note RH said "I would like to say that to you but if I'm realistic I'm not certain I can. I think staying in the Premier League is always going to be the be all and end all for us and always going to be a fight, a bit of suffering. There's not going to be rainbows and blue skies and rose coloured spectacles all the way through. There's gong to be plenty of fighting and heartache along the way." I just wish SP would come out and tell us what is going on with the lack of investment both player-wise and stadium. Too much to ask????? I can’t believe you don’t understand about the investment and ground. It’s been discussed to the death on here. Just read the financial accounts.
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Croydon 11 Sep 19 12.20pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

I can’t believe you don’t understand about the investment and ground. It’s been discussed to the death on here. Just read the financial accounts.

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Ian-VI Vicenza 12 Sep 19 10.18am
Just retweeted by HOL, 2018 closed with the highest loss before tax in the PL with £36M. The shortfall was funded by £36M of loans, £29M external and £7.5M from the owners. It means AWB money were nearly just enough to close the hole in the books... The best footie management game: [Link]
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Vicenza 12 Sep 19 10.18am

Just retweeted by HOL,
2018 closed with the highest loss before tax in the PL with £36M.
The shortfall was funded by £36M of loans, £29M external and £7.5M from the owners.
It means AWB money were nearly just enough to close the hole in the books...

The best footie management game: [Link]

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RyWa Beckenham 12 Sep 19 10.42am
Originally posted by davehuggins Just seen this, I hope SP has taken note RH said "I would like to say that to you but if I'm realistic I'm not certain I can. I think staying in the Premier League is always going to be the be all and end all for us and always going to be a fight, a bit of suffering. There's not going to be rainbows and blue skies and rose coloured spectacles all the way through. There's gong to be plenty of fighting and heartache along the way." I just wish SP would come out and tell us what is going on with the lack of investment both player-wise and stadium. Too much to ask????? Theres no money to invest.. We ran at a loss of something like 30 million last year. If the investors dumped 50 mill on transfers we would breach FFP as we would be spending well beyond our means. Its frustrating, but its unfortunately the reality.
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RyWa

Beckenham 12 Sep 19 10.42am

Originally posted by davehuggins

Theres no money to invest.. We ran at a loss of something like 30 million last year.
If the investors dumped 50 mill on transfers we would breach FFP as we would be spending well beyond our means.
Its frustrating, but its unfortunately the reality.

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davehuggins 12 Sep 19 1.48pm
I fully understand the accounts and the losses we made, but I am sure SP said the Stadium money was ring-fenced? Or have I missed something. As for the playing side of things I have no doubt we need wealthy investors to take us forward, these may be keener if our stadium was up to it!! I really do appreciate what SP has done but think he needs, IMO we are a very attractive proposition apart from the ground. Just having a say thats all ....
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12 Sep 19 1.48pm

I fully understand the accounts and the losses we made, but I am sure SP said the Stadium money was ring-fenced? Or have I missed something. As for the playing side of things I have no doubt we need wealthy investors to take us forward, these may be keener if our stadium was up to it!! I really do appreciate what SP has done but think he needs, IMO we are a very attractive proposition apart from the ground. Just having a say thats all ....

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RyWa Beckenham 12 Sep 19 2.04pm
Originally posted by davehuggins I fully understand the accounts and the losses we made, but I am sure SP said the Stadium money was ring-fenced? Or have I missed something. As for the playing side of things I have no doubt we need wealthy investors to take us forward, these may be keener if our stadium was up to it!! I really do appreciate what SP has done but think he needs, IMO we are a very attractive proposition apart from the ground. Just having a say thats all .... The problem is the revenue I agree. We could be owned by the wealthiest man alive whos willing to spend billions on the club, but it would make zero difference if we dont upgrade the stadium to increase operating revenue, which in turn makes us able to spend more money. I reckon there is money ring fenced, but the issue is the council guideline that says Palace have to fund and organise the change to public transport routes and community improvement initiatives whilst the disruptive construction process is being carried out... I dont think that was planned for by Parish and thats what the hold up is.
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RyWa

Beckenham 12 Sep 19 2.04pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

The problem is the revenue I agree. We could be owned by the wealthiest man alive whos willing to spend billions on the club, but it would make zero difference if we dont upgrade the stadium to increase operating revenue, which in turn makes us able to spend more money.
I reckon there is money ring fenced, but the issue is the council guideline that says Palace have to fund and organise the change to public transport routes and community improvement initiatives whilst the disruptive construction process is being carried out... I dont think that was planned for by Parish and thats what the hold up is.

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davehuggins 12 Sep 19 2.22pm
Brilliant WaRa hit the button on the head mate, I have no wish to knock anybody but if we are going to survive or progress then SP needs to change things asap
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12 Sep 19 2.22pm

Brilliant WaRa hit the button on the head mate, I have no wish to knock anybody but if we are going to survive or progress then SP needs to change things asap

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 12 Sep 19 3.15pm
But.....if the Americans investment was ring fenced for stadium development, are those funds still available given that they want out ? If the answer is “ no “ that would also explain the lack of tangible progress. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 12 Sep 19 3.15pm

But.....if the Americans investment was ring fenced for stadium development, are those funds still available given that they want out ?

If the answer is “ no “ that would also explain the lack of tangible progress.

Old, Ungifted and White

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