Technically but they can delay and delay can they not?

I cannot find a single thing to fault in that what so ever but I still believe she should be returned to UK juristriction, all be it intially at a military base. She was under the age of agreed majority in this country. Therefore the state owes her a duty of care, despite every single one of your well reasoned and argued points.

My belief that she should be returned is nothing to do with her as an individual. But we either have 18 as the agreed point at which an individual becomes 100% accountable for their actions or we do not. She was under that age when she made the choices she does. The country owes it to itself to offer a second chance, no matter how much that sticks in the craw. And trust me, I write none of this with anything other than a heavy heart.

But we have to be better than those IS savages. We cannot sink to their level. We have a rule of law and a common law principle of duty of care. For me that is worth more than just one very very stupid girl.

Edited by Matov (18 Jul 2020 9.43am)

I see where you are coming from, although she was “grown up” enough to use her sister’s passport to leave the U.K. and to carry off the deception at the airport. Once she has returned she will never leave as she has no other citizenship. Personally I feel she should be tried as an adult and take the necessary punishment. Don’t forget her husband is Dutch so it would not surprise me to see him in the U.K., living at taxpayers expense very soon

Isn’t he hiding somewhere? Is the marriage legal anyway since she was only 15 when it happened.

I see where you are coming from, although she was “grown up” enough to use her sister’s passport to leave the U.K. and to carry off the deception at the airport. Once she has returned she will never leave as she has no other citizenship. Personally I feel she should be tried as an adult and take the necessary punishment. Don’t forget her husband is Dutch so it would not surprise me to see him in the U.K., living at taxpayers expense very soon

Again, I cannot fault a single thing in what you write but that age of majority is 18 and she was under that when she pulled her little vanishing trick.

I am tedious about it, and have zero emotional investment in arguing the point beyond the simple fact that we are better than IS in every concievable way. And we simply cannot stoop down to their level.

This is not about her as an invidivual but us as a nation. And we have to be collectively willing to swallow an understandable amount of justified bile when it comes to this girl and letting her come back into the fold.

This is not about forgiveness but rather the rule of law. Let her return and then, after being tried and punished, slip into obscurity. The only thing I would love to find out is if she ever 'owned' one of those poor Yizardi ladies who IS enslaved. If she did, then that is the person to spit in her face and have the last laugh.

Channel 4 did a fictionalised account of these rancid individuals who joined IS and in one of the stories, a British girl did end up having a Yizardi girl as a slave. When the Yizardi girl started to sing, and refused the order to stop, my heart wanted to burst with a mix of happiness at that small act of resistance along with sadness that they were forced into that plight in the first place.

f*** those joyless, miserable, motherless Islamic state f***s.

Edited by Matov (18 Jul 2020 10.29pm)