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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 Nov 17 3.27pm

Originally posted by elgrande

This just about sums up the attitude of the left.
Children being blown up at a concert,no problem,people getting killed going out for a meal...not a problem.
Muslim jihadists not a problem.neo nazi idiots,giving it the saliute and dressing like hitler...my god we must stop them,i agree we must stop the neo nazis,but I think the other problem is a tad more urgent.

Its a problem for which there is no reasonable solution though, not without adopting policies that significantly separate us from our values.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Nov 17 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Yep, especially when people embrace the idealised outcome of Brexit, in which everything is all sunshine rainbows and no consequences, and will deliver magic pie to all, and no consequences what so ever at all.

Especially once that human rights act is out of the way. I can't see Islamist terrorism ever destroying our human rights for starters, but sure, it'll be just fine to hand those over to a series of governments that have fallen foul of them since 1998

That couldn't possibly have any consequences...

Islamic terrorists are a threat to UK lives, and should be considered a major threat in that regard. They won't however change our way of life.

Well, immigration generally has changed our way of life already. Minority issues and immigration related issues are all we seem to concern ourselves with and our whole sense of humour and sense of identity has been altered.

Remember when Muslims were just people you saw in movies?

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Nov 17 4.02pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Yep, especially when people embrace the idealised outcome of Brexit, in which everything is all sunshine rainbows and no consequences, and will deliver magic pie to all, and no consequences what so ever at all.

Especially once that human rights act is out of the way. I can't see Islamist terrorism ever destroying our human rights for starters, but sure, it'll be just fine to hand those over to a series of governments that have fallen foul of them since 1998

That couldn't possibly have any consequences...

Islamic terrorists are a threat to UK lives, and should be considered a major threat in that regard. They won't however change our way of life.

Who is saying that? Why are you so afraid of us making our own laws, framing our own human rights legislation instead of relying on the involvement of such historical beacons of democracy and human rights as Germany, Spain, Romania etc.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Nov 17 4.04pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Its a problem for which there is no reasonable solution though, not without adopting policies that significantly separate us from our values.

What opposing death cults separates us from our values?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Nov 17 4.05pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Who is saying that? Why are you so afraid of us making our own laws, framing our own human rights legislation instead of relying on the involvement of such historical beacons of democracy and human rights as Germany, Spain, Romania etc.

Because the Tories want to change laws and legislation through unaccountable Tory loaded committees rather than through the debating chamber of the commons.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Nov 17 4.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Because the Tories want to change laws and legislation through unaccountable Tory loaded committees rather than through the debating chamber of the commons.

What like the EU Commissoners work you mean.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Because the Tories want to change laws and legislation through unaccountable Tory loaded committees rather than through the debating chamber of the commons.

So the ever increasingly communist riddled Labour Party would be more democratic than the Tories?

Not for long.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Nov 17 4.56pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What like the EU Commissoners work you mean.

Which is then voted by the European Parliament.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Nov 17 4.57pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So the ever increasingly communist riddled Labour Party would be more democratic than the Tories?

Not for long.

Should be evenly cross party

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Nov 17 5.18pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Which is then voted by the European Parliament.

As are British laws in our parliament. Only we don't have 27 other countries outvoting us in our own parliament.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Nov 17 5.20pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

As are British laws in our parliament. Only we don't have 27 other countries outvoting us in our own parliament.

They won't be. Each law is being ratified by committee. It was voted as part of the repeal bill.

Blimey. Keep up.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 10 Nov 17 5.26pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

They won't be. Each law is being ratified by committee. It was voted as part of the repeal bill.

Blimey. Keep up.

Are you talking about EU laws being incorporated into UK law until we decide which to keep?

 


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