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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 24 7.19pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
You can't see the timing of this I guess. This is literally conjecture printed as fact by the BBC. Someone said that so and so had happened. Amazing and damning evidence. Cutting through the dross and inventions, literally all that has happened is Trump has to pay the costs of his own lawsuit. There is no proof of any of the salubrious claims. This is the same as the guy who scammed you but on a bigger scale and obviously backed by political and establishment figures. It's that point that should make you think - but it won't. It wasn’t his costs he was ordered to pay! It was all the costs, including those of Steele’s. Steele scammed nobody. He was asked to produce a report on a political opponent. Which he delivered but was also so concerned about what it suggested that he made sure the FBI saw it too. The FBI though possessed even more which Mueller then investigated but was stopped from delivering by Barr’s ruling. The BBC don’t hate Trump. They report on Trump and if what he does is hateful that’s not their fault. It’s his. Nothing involving Trump ought to entertain anyone. It’s far too concerning to be taken so lightly.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 24 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Any day now, any day. Any day now? Unlikely! Someday? Very probably. Mueller discovered a great deal about Trump that he was unable to reveal because of Barr’s intervention. He was very careful in what he said at the time. What he did not say was that he exonerated him. Mueller’s files were all spirited away to secure storage in New York where the Federal authorities cannot order their destruction no matter who is put in charge of the FBI. When and how they will see the light of day remains unknown. Why no action has yet been taken also is unknown. Deciding how to handle this must be a nightmare for both the Justice Dept and the FBI. My guess is they are hoping it isn’t necessary before the election because it looks certain Trump is going to lose. That happens if the Court cases start to damage him and the Democrats select an alternative to Biden who is younger, credible and has wow appeal. If the present situation prevails and he looks like winning then a bombshell could well emerge. The FBI know full well everything about Trump and that the USA cannot risk another 4 years of him as POTUS. They also know full well the dangers of any perception of them being involved in politics in any way. Those who think the so called “Russiagate” scandal is a myth are only proving, once again, just how gullible they are. It’s real and it hasn’t gone away.
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Stirlingsays 08 Mar 24 8.25pm | |
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 24 8.25pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It was good to see Biden calling out the SC judges over abortion, to widespread applause. They looked ashamed, taken by surprise. Who do they think they are? In the USA case, political appointments, a rotten system.
Abortion being used as a political football is sad to witness, but apparently opposing it is a vote loser in the USA. I am glad to see France making a strong point over this. Maybe that’s something the Democrats should consider.
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Teddy Eagle 08 Mar 24 10.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Any day now? Unlikely! Someday? Very probably. Mueller discovered a great deal about Trump that he was unable to reveal because of Barr’s intervention. He was very careful in what he said at the time. What he did not say was that he exonerated him. Mueller’s files were all spirited away to secure storage in New York where the Federal authorities cannot order their destruction no matter who is put in charge of the FBI. When and how they will see the light of day remains unknown. Why no action has yet been taken also is unknown. Deciding how to handle this must be a nightmare for both the Justice Dept and the FBI. My guess is they are hoping it isn’t necessary before the election because it looks certain Trump is going to lose. That happens if the Court cases start to damage him and the Democrats select an alternative to Biden who is younger, credible and has wow appeal. If the present situation prevails and he looks like winning then a bombshell could well emerge. The FBI know full well everything about Trump and that the USA cannot risk another 4 years of him as POTUS. They also know full well the dangers of any perception of them being involved in politics in any way. Those who think the so called “Russiagate” scandal is a myth are only proving, once again, just how gullible they are. It’s real and it hasn’t gone away. Real?
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georgenorman 08 Mar 24 10.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Abortion being used as a political football is sad to witness, but apparently opposing it is a vote loser in the USA. I am glad to see France making a strong point over this. Maybe that’s something the Democrats should consider. Perhaps the government should spend a million pounds on a memorial to terminated nascent lives rather than on Muslim combatants who are already commemorated along with all the others.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 24 11.19pm | |
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Of course it’s real. That the DNC tried to hide the fact they had commissioned such a report and got fined for doing so has no bearing at all on the veracity of the report itself. The journalist is wrong in the assertion that the FBI spent time trying to investigate the contents. The truth is they had no need to as they were aware of them all and well ahead with others. The important report is that conducted by Mueller. That’s the one we need to see with as little redacted as possible.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Mar 24 11.21pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Perhaps the government should spend a million pounds on a memorial to terminated nascent lives rather than on Muslim combatants who are already commemorated along with all the others. There’s much better uses than either.
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Teddy Eagle 08 Mar 24 11.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course it’s real. That the DNC tried to hide the fact they had commissioned such a report and got fined for doing so has no bearing at all on the veracity of the report itself. The journalist is wrong in the assertion that the FBI spent time trying to investigate the contents. The truth is they had no need to as they were aware of them all and well ahead with others. The important report is that conducted by Mueller. That’s the one we need to see with as little redacted as possible. The journalist is wrong? OK. But since its publication, core aspects of the dossier have been exposed as unsupported and unproven rumors. A special counsel assigned to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation charged one of Steele’s sources with lying to the FBI and charged a cybersecurity lawyer who worked for Clinton’s campaign with lying to the FBI...
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Mar 24 10.56am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The journalist is wrong? OK. But since its publication, core aspects of the dossier have been exposed as unsupported and unproven rumors. A special counsel assigned to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation charged one of Steele’s sources with lying to the FBI and charged a cybersecurity lawyer who worked for Clinton’s campaign with lying to the FBI... It is all unsubstantiated and equivalent to believing everything that's in the Daily Star. But it is about Trump so some people want to lap it up. Basically Clinton used campaign funds to have stories about Trump put into a dossier and then leaked.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Mar 24 10.59am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It wasn’t his costs he was ordered to pay! It was all the costs, including those of Steele’s. Steele scammed nobody. He was asked to produce a report on a political opponent. Which he delivered but was also so concerned about what it suggested that he made sure the FBI saw it too. The FBI though possessed even more which Mueller then investigated but was stopped from delivering by Barr’s ruling. The BBC don’t hate Trump. They report on Trump and if what he does is hateful that’s not their fault. It’s his. Nothing involving Trump ought to entertain anyone. It’s far too concerning to be taken so lightly. I know exactly what happened - none of the rumours are substantiated at all. That didn't stop the fact-checking BBC publishing them. Trump has been ordered to pay the legal costs of a suit he brought. Nothing more.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Mar 24 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The journalist is wrong? OK. But since its publication, core aspects of the dossier have been exposed as unsupported and unproven rumors. A special counsel assigned to investigate the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation charged one of Steele’s sources with lying to the FBI and charged a cybersecurity lawyer who worked for Clinton’s campaign with lying to the FBI... I know all of that. One thing that Mueller complained about was the lack of cooperation and openness from Trump and his advisers. That rumours are either unsupported or unproven doesn’t mean they aren’t true or that the evidence doesn’t exist to support them , or that it has been found but not yet released because it needs to be verified. Mueller knew the truth. He was unable to reveal it due to two barriers. One being Barr’s ruling that a sitting President could not be indicted. The second being the need to prove what he knew to the level where a conviction would result. A conspiracy of silence and the construction of plausible deniability doesn’t mean that nothing exists. Hence the removal of the papers. How the FBI will handle this remains unknown, but they will. Perhaps by holding a “Sword of Damocles” over Trump to curtail him. I am merely speculating though.
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