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Petealiator 1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 5.33pm
Quote halfmanhalfslug at 13 Jul 2005 4:50pm Gosh. Quite a tirade for someone who doesn't care. Your beliefs are noted. But if you think "whole cities [have been] given over to non-indigenous people" you really ought to visit them first. What an utter load of bullsh!t. There's exaggeration, and then there's just talking sh!t. Way to cross the line Pete. FYI there is not one city in the UK which is less than 50% white. Not one. One question arises from the above, the rest not being worth responding to. Which nations and cultures are "non-barbaric" and which are barbaric, by your criteria? Off now to cry about not being invited for a drink. So let's see, in your opinion the government lies about everything, except their dubious - to say the least - statistical statements on population. If you believe "there is not one city in the UK which is less than 50% white" you are a far bigger mug that you seem! And if you also believe that 93% of Britain is white, well f*** me sideways and call me Susan you really are a gullible idiot! The fact is the government have not got a clue how many illegals are here for a start and if they did, they'd lie about it just as they lie about the population of Britain. Edited by Moose (19 Jul 2005 9:39am) My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 5.33pm

Quote halfmanhalfslug at 13 Jul 2005 4:50pm

Gosh. Quite a tirade for someone who doesn't care.

Your beliefs are noted. But if you think "whole cities [have been] given over to non-indigenous people" you really ought to visit them first. What an utter load of bullsh!t. There's exaggeration, and then there's just talking sh!t. Way to cross the line Pete. FYI there is not one city in the UK which is less than 50% white. Not one.

One question arises from the above, the rest not being worth responding to. Which nations and cultures are "non-barbaric" and which are barbaric, by your criteria?

Off now to cry about not being invited for a drink.

So let's see, in your opinion the government lies about everything, except their dubious - to
say the least - statistical statements on population. If you believe "there is not one city in the UK which is less than 50% white" you are a far bigger mug that you seem! And if you also believe that 93% of Britain is white, well f*** me sideways and call me Susan you really are a gullible idiot! The fact is the government have not got a clue how many illegals are here for a start and if they did, they'd lie about it just as they lie about the population of Britain.

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Danger Playa del Merstham 13 Jul 05 5.44pm
Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:33pm Quote Balham Burner at 13 Jul 2005 4:45pm Everton? Luton, oops! Will you buy me a pint if I turn up? FFS MURRAY
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Playa del Merstham 13 Jul 05 5.44pm

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Quote Balham Burner at 13 Jul 2005 4:45pm

Everton?

Luton, oops!

Will you buy me a pint if I turn up?

FFS MURRAY

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 5.46pm
Quote NickinOX at 13 Jul 2005 5:27pm But, he claimed and you agreed, that Iraq put us in the firing line. That is not true, as we were already in the firing line. Though I do agree it did increase the risk. Any action we do take, will in all likelihood increase our risk in the short term. That makes complete sense. Thus the logic is we should take no action. Does that mean you think we should take no action? Personally, I think that would be suicide. Iraq did put us in the firing line. It put us in the firing line of another group of people. There is no single firing line, but the more conflicts we fight, the more enemies we make. Part of the whole Iraq debate was whether or not we had any justification for the invasion. I have yet to see that we did. I guess I wasn't foul mouthed enough to warrant a response from Petealiator. A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 5.46pm

Quote NickinOX at 13 Jul 2005 5:27pm

But, he claimed and you agreed, that Iraq put us in the firing line. That is not true, as we were already in the firing line. Though I do agree it did increase the risk.

Any action we do take, will in all likelihood increase our risk in the short term. That makes complete sense. Thus the logic is we should take no action.

Does that mean you think we should take no action? Personally, I think that would be suicide.

Iraq did put us in the firing line. It put us in the firing line of another group of people. There is no single firing line, but the more conflicts we fight, the more enemies we make. Part of the whole Iraq debate was whether or not we had any justification for the invasion. I have yet to see that we did.

I guess I wasn't foul mouthed enough to warrant a response from Petealiator.

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Petealiator 1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 5.48pm
Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that? Not in the least! You obviously enjoy race riots and suicide bombers, I don't. If you need foreign cities full of foreign nationals to keep your experience of life from becoming stale, there's a thing called an aeroplane that may be of some use. My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 5.48pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm

but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that?

Not in the least! You obviously enjoy race riots and suicide bombers, I don't. If you need foreign cities full of foreign nationals to keep your experience of life from becoming stale, there's a thing called an aeroplane that may be of some use.

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Petealiator 1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 5.49pm
Quote Danger at 13 Jul 2005 5:44pm Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:33pm Quote Balham Burner at 13 Jul 2005 4:45pm Everton? Luton, oops! Will you buy me a pint if I turn up? No! But you can buy me one! My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 5.49pm

Quote Danger at 13 Jul 2005 5:44pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:33pm

Quote Balham Burner at 13 Jul 2005 4:45pm

Everton?

Luton, oops!

Will you buy me a pint if I turn up?

No! But you can buy me one!

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Danger Playa del Merstham 13 Jul 05 5.50pm
Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:49pm Quote Danger at 13 Jul 2005 5:44pm Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:33pm Quote Balham Burner at 13 Jul 2005 4:45pm Everton? Luton, oops! Will you buy me a pint if I turn up? No! But you can buy me one! WOW! Lucky me FFS MURRAY
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Playa del Merstham 13 Jul 05 5.50pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:49pm

Quote Danger at 13 Jul 2005 5:44pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:33pm

Quote Balham Burner at 13 Jul 2005 4:45pm

Everton?

Luton, oops!

Will you buy me a pint if I turn up?

No! But you can buy me one!

WOW! Lucky me

FFS MURRAY

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 5.53pm
Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:48pm Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that? Not in the least! You obviously enjoy race riots and suicide bombers, I don't. If you need foreign cities full of foreign nationals to keep your experience of life from becoming stale, there's a thing called an aeroplane that may be of some use. Yes - I've been on an aeroplane, and many, many times. To go to other fantastic places. Yes, they are all interesting. They are interesting because they are different. Look around you, and do you really think that life would be interesting with no immigrants? With only 'English food' and 'English culture' fenced off from the rest of the world? A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 5.53pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:48pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm

but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that?

Yes - I've been on an aeroplane, and many, many times. To go to other fantastic places. Yes, they are all interesting. They are interesting because they are different. Look around you, and do you really think that life would be interesting with no immigrants? With only 'English food' and 'English culture' fenced off from the rest of the world?

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Petealiator 1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 6.01pm
Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:53pm Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:48pm Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that? Not in the least! You obviously enjoy race riots and suicide bombers, I don't. If you need foreign cities full of foreign nationals to keep your experience of life from becoming stale, there's a thing called an aeroplane that may be of some use. Yes - I've been on an aeroplane, and many, many times. To go to other fantastic places. Yes, they are all interesting. They are interesting because they are different. Look around you, and do you really think that life would be interesting with no immigrants? With only 'English food' and 'English culture' fenced off from the rest of the world? When have I EVER said "no Immigrants"? I suggest you read the post about my beliefs before you start distorting my views to fit your agenda! Edited by Petealiator (13 Jul 2005 6:01pm) My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 6.01pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:53pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:48pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm

but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that?

When have I EVER said "no Immigrants"? I suggest you read the post about my beliefs before you start distorting my views to fit your agenda!

Edited by Petealiator (13 Jul 2005 6:01pm)

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 6.09pm
Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 6:01pm Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:53pm Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:48pm Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that? Not in the least! You obviously enjoy race riots and suicide bombers, I don't. If you need foreign cities full of foreign nationals to keep your experience of life from becoming stale, there's a thing called an aeroplane that may be of some use. Yes - I've been on an aeroplane, and many, many times. To go to other fantastic places. Yes, they are all interesting. They are interesting because they are different. Look around you, and do you really think that life would be interesting with no immigrants? With only 'English food' and 'English culture' fenced off from the rest of the world? When have I EVER said "no Immigrants"? I suggest you read the post about my beliefs before you start distorting my views to fit your agenda! Edited by Petealiator (13 Jul 2005 6:01pm) What makes you think race riots and suicide bombers are naturally the product of multicultural society then? And how would we get cities full of foreign nationals without them immigrating? A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 6.09pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 6:01pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:53pm

Quote Petealiator at 13 Jul 2005 5:48pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:18pm

but surely it'd be a whole lot more uniform and stale if it wasn't for that?

When have I EVER said "no Immigrants"? I suggest you read the post about my beliefs before you start distorting my views to fit your agenda!

Edited by Petealiator (13 Jul 2005 6:01pm)

What makes you think race riots and suicide bombers are naturally the product of multicultural society then?

And how would we get cities full of foreign nationals without them immigrating?

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NickinOX Sailing country. 13 Jul 05 6.13pm
Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:46pm Quote NickinOX at 13 Jul 2005 5:27pm But, he claimed and you agreed, that Iraq put us in the firing line. That is not true, as we were already in the firing line. Though I do agree it did increase the risk. Any action we do take, will in all likelihood increase our risk in the short term. That makes complete sense. Thus the logic is we should take no action. Does that mean you think we should take no action? Personally, I think that would be suicide. Iraq did put us in the firing line. It put us in the firing line of another group of people. There is no single firing line, but the more conflicts we fight, the more enemies we make. Part of the whole Iraq debate was whether or not we had any justification for the invasion. I have yet to see that we did. I guess I wasn't foul mouthed enough to warrant a response from Petealiator. If we were already in the firing line, and you accept we clearly were well before Iraq, then how did it put us into the firing line when we were already there? We do not yet even know for sure what this particular cell is claiming, so how you can claim effectively that this is a new group with differing ideology is beyond me. It may well be that they claim it was because of Iraq. What of those who claim it is because of Palestine, or Afghanistan, or the Arab World in general, or oil, etc., etc. This list could continue for miles. It is all bulls*** in the name of trying to justify killing. And how do 4 Brits, who can vote, justify murdering other Brits in the name of Iraq, if that is indeed the excuse? They can't, it is all just to ease their warped consciences for action they know to be wrong, otherwise they would not need an excuse. These people do not need an excuse. They will create one that suits them. N.B. Al-Quaida's goal was to get rid of Ameirca from Saudi. Then when America pulled almost all of it's troops out, it became to get rid of it from somwhere else (Iraq). The stated goal of a number of the groups with similar philosophies is the complete and utter destruction of the west. Nothing short of that will do. Do you really think that Iraq caused this? Many of these terrorists groups want to compltely destroy us and they will use any and all excuses to justify their aims.
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Sailing country. 13 Jul 05 6.13pm

Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 5:46pm

Quote NickinOX at 13 Jul 2005 5:27pm

But, he claimed and you agreed, that Iraq put us in the firing line. That is not true, as we were already in the firing line. Though I do agree it did increase the risk.

Any action we do take, will in all likelihood increase our risk in the short term. That makes complete sense. Thus the logic is we should take no action.

Does that mean you think we should take no action? Personally, I think that would be suicide.

I guess I wasn't foul mouthed enough to warrant a response from Petealiator.

If we were already in the firing line, and you accept we clearly were well before Iraq, then how did it put us into the firing line when we were already there? We do not yet even know for sure what this particular cell is claiming, so how you can claim effectively that this is a new group with differing ideology is beyond me.

It may well be that they claim it was because of Iraq. What of those who claim it is because of Palestine, or Afghanistan, or the Arab World in general, or oil, etc., etc. This list could continue for miles. It is all bulls*** in the name of trying to justify killing.

And how do 4 Brits, who can vote, justify murdering other Brits in the name of Iraq, if that is indeed the excuse? They can't, it is all just to ease their warped consciences for action they know to be wrong, otherwise they would not need an excuse.

These people do not need an excuse. They will create one that suits them. N.B. Al-Quaida's goal was to get rid of Ameirca from Saudi. Then when America pulled almost all of it's troops out, it became to get rid of it from somwhere else (Iraq). The stated goal of a number of the groups with similar philosophies is the complete and utter destruction of the west. Nothing short of that will do. Do you really think that Iraq caused this? Many of these terrorists groups want to compltely destroy us and they will use any and all excuses to justify their aims.

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 6.31pm
Quote NickinOX at 13 Jul 2005 6:13pm [ These people do not need an excuse. They will create one that suits them. N.B. Al-Quaida's goal was to get rid of Ameirca from Saudi. Then when America pulled almost all of it's troops out, it became to get rid of it from somwhere else (Iraq). The stated goal of a number of the groups with similar philosophies is the complete and utter destruction of the west. Nothing short of that will do. Do you really think that Iraq caused this? Many of these terrorists groups want to compltely destroy us and they will use any and all excuses to justify their aims. They want US troops out of a variety of places. And so do I. If the Americans weren't occupying, I think the problem would be massively less significant than it is. And all this about a hypothetical 'firing line' is silly, I think. There is always a firing line, and we're always in it. Everywhere can suffer as a result of a crazed bunch of maniacs, it doesn't matter on that level the ideology behind it. Where it does matter is in the number of pies we've stuck out fingers in, especially when we do so as a nation and we do so with violence. A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 13 Jul 05 6.31pm

Quote NickinOX at 13 Jul 2005 6:13pm

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These people do not need an excuse. They will create one that suits them. N.B. Al-Quaida's goal was to get rid of Ameirca from Saudi. Then when America pulled almost all of it's troops out, it became to get rid of it from somwhere else (Iraq). The stated goal of a number of the groups with similar philosophies is the complete and utter destruction of the west. Nothing short of that will do. Do you really think that Iraq caused this? Many of these terrorists groups want to compltely destroy us and they will use any and all excuses to justify their aims.

They want US troops out of a variety of places. And so do I. If the Americans weren't occupying, I think the problem would be massively less significant than it is.

And all this about a hypothetical 'firing line' is silly, I think. There is always a firing line, and we're always in it. Everywhere can suffer as a result of a crazed bunch of maniacs, it doesn't matter on that level the ideology behind it.

Where it does matter is in the number of pies we've stuck out fingers in, especially when we do so as a nation and we do so with violence.

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Petealiator 1066 Country! 13 Jul 05 6.36pm
Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 6:09pm What makes you think race riots and suicide bombers are naturally the product of multicultural society then? 'Multicultural' means 'the existence of several cultures within a society', 'several' means 'some' or 'more than one', so with that in mind, come on then, let's hear it, how the f*** can you have a race riot in a monocultural society I'm intrigued! My Rocksteady band... [Link] [Link] IT'S NOT SKA, IT'S ROCKSTEADY!
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Quote tome at 13 Jul 2005 6:09pm

What makes you think race riots and suicide bombers are naturally the product of multicultural society then?

'Multicultural' means 'the existence of several cultures within a society', 'several' means 'some' or 'more than one', so with that in mind, come on then, let's hear it, how the f*** can you have a race riot in a monocultural society I'm intrigued!

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