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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 01 Aug 23 5.01pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That would be all of them excluded then, for they are obliged to monitor them all.

Again, you are not answering the question.

We all know that PEPS are regularly monitored, that's not the issue.

As NE14T suggests, any PEPS ' debanked ' for reasons other than Financial Crime suspicions should be explained.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 5.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Brilliant. So now all he needs to do is outrage a few folk and get his account stopped then make a fuss and get it back with another load of compo. Rinse and repeat.

I suspect they would have a lawyer handle another closure and not have any internal documents at all.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Again, you are not answering the question.

We all know that PEPS are regularly monitored, that's not the issue.

As NE14T suggests, any PEPS ' debanked ' for reasons other than Financial Crime suspicions should be explained.

Fine. Let that be a regulation. It isn't now. That's the point.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 01 Aug 23 5.55pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You and Orwell should get a room.

Though you would probably suit Orville better. Both being equally childish.

Room 101?

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Aug 23 6.16pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not many people think about this as objectively as I do. Many read the Mail, Sun or other newspapers and don’t think out of the box.

I suspect that the NatWest Board took this decision through gritted teeth and under a lot of political pressure. Not because they believe their approach to this subject is wrong. I would love to be a fly on the wall at their next meeting with other banks because I suspect they will be furious at the cave in.

Well it seems niello has the contacts to do just that, you don’t so maybe unfriending him has backfired

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Aug 23 6.17pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That may be true, and may well be seen in hindsight as a badly thought through policy.

Doesn’t change their right to do it. Banks are allowed to be stupid.

And “it’s their right” is all you have in this whole thread. Everything else is just lefty claptrap.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 01 Aug 23 8.41pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That’s for the bank to assess. It’s their business. Not yours or mine. I don’t think it’s likely that your examples will be regarded as threats, but it’s not up to me.

Let's cut through the crap.

A bank can currently close an account if it wants to.

In this example, a purple haired woman closed his account because of who he is and his politics. This you describe as a reputational risk.

If banks continue to be allowed to do this, then there is no real limit on whose accounts can be closed or why they are closed.
This could lead to a whole section of society having their accounts closed arbitrarily by the decision of an individual or individuals because they are considered a risk.

Since bank accounts are becoming increasingly necessary in order to function in society, this would be catastrophic for the individuals concerned and all caused simply because of things such as their politics, who they associate with or any number of other behaviours that are normal in a free country.

The only answer therefore is to make it a human right to have a bank account, and for anyone closing accounts on the basis described to be prosecuted.

Some things are even more important than business and the right to a life without persecution, corporate or otherwise, should be one of them.


 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Aug 23 10.00pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Room 101?

I wouldn't inflict that on a poor rat

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Aug 23 10.03pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let's cut through the crap.

A bank can currently close an account if it wants to.

In this example, a purple haired woman closed his account because of who he is and his politics. This you describe as a reputational risk.

If banks continue to be allowed to do this, then there is no real limit on whose accounts can be closed or why they are closed.
This could lead to a whole section of society having their accounts closed arbitrarily by the decision of an individual or individuals because they are considered a risk.

Since bank accounts are becoming increasingly necessary in order to function in society, this would be catastrophic for the individuals concerned and all caused simply because of things such as their politics, who they associate with or any number of other behaviours that are normal in a free country.

The only answer therefore is to make it a human right to have a bank account, and for anyone closing accounts on the basis described to be prosecuted.

Some things are even more important than business and the right to a life without persecution, corporate or otherwise, should be one of them.


I would agree to make it a legal obligation for banks operating in the UK to provide banking facilities to legal residents of the UK. As a human right , no way.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Aug 23 10.12pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

My once every 6 month(ish) expression of my utter puzzlement as to why so many of you bright and erudite people waste a single moment engaging with this village idiot?

Exactly this

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Aug 23 10.14pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Again, you are not answering the question.

We all know that PEPs are regularly monitored, that's not the issue.

As NE14T suggests, any PEPs ' debanked ' for reasons other than Financial Crime suspicions should be explained.

There is nothing shown so far that the thousands of debanked were PEPs. Many seem to be just folk who disagreed with something like pronoun policy or similar.

PEPs are just the tip of the iceberg

Edited by HKOwen (01 Aug 2023 10.23pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 23 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

And “it’s their right” is all you have in this whole thread. Everything else is just lefty claptrap.

Kindly explain what you regard as “lefty” about bank’s operating as all business’s do. Which is to care fo4 their bottom line.

 


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