Bit harsh sir.

I believe I fell foul of getting wound up by Lanzo’s posts at one point and do occasionally poke fun at him/the posts but very innocently I’m keen to add.

Very happy to be corrected given I do not ‘know and remember all’ but for all Lanzo’s strongly asserted and sometimes eyebrow raising posts I’ve never really seen him attack another poster and it certainly doesn’t come across as vicious to me.

Again, very happy to be corrected if wrong however whilst he may wind you up with what he says, it’s hard to see there being anything aggressive he is expressing personally beyond an opinion many often disagree with. I’ve learnt to embrace it as part of the wider picture as opposed to getting riled if you’re willing to take a suggestion.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Todays results elsewhere were not good for us. But looking at previous seasons the current points tally for that 3rd spot is pretty much the same as now.

Only once did a team go down on 37 points. The average is 35 if we exclude the season no-one got more than 26 which was an anomaly.

I would say 38 will see us safe. So 12 more points from 15 games.

Next week we have leeds v southampton and west ham v forest.

Usual pointless conjecture about points required to stay up.

All fair and valid points, but I would suggest Vieira is equally culpable. A good manager would realise he has not been given the full player resources to implement a complete transformation to possession based football and modify their strategy to suit the players they do have. Instead it seems PV has blithely carried on regardless as if he has a squad like Man City. Unless he at least temporarily abandons his idealistic plans and adopts a more pragmatic way to see out the season there could well be trouble ahead

So you think it is not Vieira that picks Schlupp for a midfield spot in every game?