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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Feb 22 9.58am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
It's a waste of time trying to look too far into the future, God knows what could happen. We are seriously off-topic, but it won't be that far in the future. Perhaps the naysayers might be more open to reason when the 2021 census figures are released. Remember that probably a million or more people here are illegal and won't fill it in. They will stop having census soon. The reality will be too much for some.
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georgenorman 09 Feb 22 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am glad you agree. The problem you go on to describe can, and must be avoided. I don't think that's impossible, although not easy either. The kind of attitudes that have been displayed in this thread don't help, but can be overcome. I am glad you agree that the problem exists.
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you go back far enough that's true. Europeans are just Africans who have lost their colour because of the change in their environment. The human race didn't start in a variety of places. That appears to be outdated as recent finds suggest that humans may have been appearing in Asia even earlier. Regardless early humans indeed also started in what is now called Africa. If you go back far enough you're related to a fruit fly....this is simple deconstruction to try and confuse people. No one is saying that we aren't all related, no one is saying that...Humans are quite similar. However, just as females are different from males you are ignoring reality if you believe that there are no genetic categories between humans. The differences between humans due to the evolution of much more than a hundred thousand years of being separated on different geographical landmasses is a reality. Evolution didn't stop because you have warm fuzzy feelings about it. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You cannot determine your "race" from DNA. This from Wiki:- "There is broad consensus across the biological and social sciences that race is a social construct, not an accurate representation of human genetic variation." Wordplay for political ends.....that's actually straight out of Marxism. This leftist dogma has infected the educational institutions since the sixties. Most normal people recognise that. It is not based upon practical biology, which can actually identify geographical origins and instead focuses upon concepts like cellular biology to make its claims. Its only 'consensus' comes from the political policy of not employing anyone who disagrees which is how we've ended up with a politically lop sided educational system. James Watson, who co founded the discovery of DNA is an example of the disparity of opinion here.... He was destroyed by this leftist takeover.....He is co responsible for helping humanity move forward in multiple fields. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The "Great Replacement" is entirely based on a flawed, some might call it a fake, concept. It is a conclusion seeking justification. A conclusion reached by people with very dubious attitudes and world views. Many analyses have shown this without believing they are addressing people so dumb that they must shout out loud WE ARE DEBUNKING THIS THEORY. Intelligent people have enough common sense to work that out for themselves. Liars and the deluded can believe what they want. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 10.34am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Feb 22 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How deluded can one person be? It really does not require a PhD to see that the current trend of immigration and births will lead to the replacement of the previous gene pool in a relatively short time frame. You could of course show us a model where this won't happen and how this model will be achieved. Technically there is no race, but if you have no race then there can be no racism. I'll go with that. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Feb 2022 8.36am) You don't need a model to show why this won't happen. You just need to engage your brain. No current trend of anything leads to anywhere, because what's current isn't what is tomorrow. The only certainty is what exists now, won't exist tomorrow. Change is the only constant. The level of immigration will change. It could increase, or decrease. Its source could change. Our needs, and therefore our attractiveness, will almost certainly change. Automation makes that inevitable. Countries develop and retain their own people. People go back to their birthplace. More important than any of that though is that people change. They assimilate, they become absorbed in the culture. We too change. We accept and extend our culture. My parents didn't know what a Chicken Tikka Masala was. We have all changed, even though some don't like admitting it. Change is happening ever faster. Don't resist it, for only misery can result. Embrace and enjoy it. There's nothing to fear.
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 10.11am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You don't need a model to show why this won't happen. You just need to engage your brain. No current trend of anything leads to anywhere, because what's current isn't what is tomorrow. The only certainty is what exists now, won't exist tomorrow. Change is the only constant. The level of immigration will change. It could increase, or decrease. Its source could change. Our needs, and therefore our attractiveness, will almost certainly change. Automation makes that inevitable. Countries develop and retain their own people. People go back to their birthplace. More important than any of that though is that people change. They assimilate, they become absorbed in the culture. We too change. We accept and extend our culture. My parents didn't know what a Chicken Tikka Masala was. We have all changed, even though some don't like admitting it. It's hilarious....frigging hippy bullsh1t....that's worked out well hasn't it....any curious look at the social statistics shows the nightmare of outcomes. Generations of destroyed lives from rubbish social trends. This guy claimed to be a 'one nation Tory' yet the reality of his posts is that he sounds more like he wants to be doing E behind the bike sheds. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 10.12am)
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HKOwen Hong Kong 09 Feb 22 10.22am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I agree that there are more differences to cause conflict than in Northern Ireland. My comparison was more about the probable shape the conflict will take. Bombs and guns ( mostly ) aside there have been race based riots in the UK for decades sad to say
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HKOwen Hong Kong 09 Feb 22 10.24am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The legal one. Good try at a semantic escape but sorry to say you failed to cut the wire. So how do British muslims fit in to the debate on " the Replacement " theory Britishness is not based on skin colour which you implied in your earlier post , whoops. Wriggle as you will that was your clear implication. Edited by HKOwen (09 Feb 2022 10.25am)
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Stirlingsays 09 Feb 22 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I don't think we will diappear completely - might end up like Native Americans though! You're right the future is never certain. We can only go on likely trends, but nothing is set in stone I suppose. The Native Americans only have what they have because they were allowed it by the Americans...Who were in reality our European ancestors. A different attitude would have bred/killed/pushed them out...well in reality that's what they were doing until they decided to stop once all the good land had been taken. I don't quite see the British being killed as what's been happening to the Boers...but similar to the Boers it probably isn't going to end well at the end. You can see population flows even now.....near the end of the century it's likely the that highest white populated areas will be the colder parts of Scotland and the most expensive areas to live....if that's allowed. At least the future remembrance is ours....I don't see descendants looking back well on those that willing created their situation. Even the strongest indoctrination has to destroy the past to do that. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 10.36am)
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The Dolphin 09 Feb 22 10.54am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The Buck Stops Here must be one of the most pointless aphorisms ever coined. Those in authority are seldom willing to accept responsibility for their own mistakes let alone anyone else’s. It should be - The buck stops with the incompetent staff who didn’t properly implement my brilliant strategy/budget/business plan. I agree with you Teddy but in Starmer's case he cannot point fingers and tell people to do something that he himself wasn't prepared to do. Edited by The Dolphin (09 Feb 2022 12.08pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Feb 22 11.09am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Good try at a semantic escape but sorry to say you failed to cut the wire. So how do British muslims fit in to the debate on " the Replacement " theory Britishness is not based on skin colour which you implied in your earlier post , whoops. Wriggle as you will that was your clear implication. Edited by HKOwen (09 Feb 2022 10.25am) There are no semantics involved. It's a fact. I accept the legal definition which, by the way, I also believe to be the correct one. You can be born British or become British through naturalisation. Having myself witnessed 2 naturalisation ceremonies I know just how proud people are when acquiring their new identity, swearing allegiance to the Crown, undertaking to abide by all our laws and respecting our culture. It's not an easy or quick thing to achieve. Those who acquire it often value it a great deal more than those who just get given it, work harder and are better citizens.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 09 Feb 22 11.58am | |
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Nah, lots of words but not addressing the point. Not worth continuing with British debate. You confused yourself with your own semantics in replying to Stirlingsays. Nobody is perfect but don't try and wriggle out of your confusion. Edited by HKOwen (09 Feb 2022 12.04pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Feb 22 12.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You don't need a model to show why this won't happen. You just need to engage your brain. No current trend of anything leads to anywhere, because what's current isn't what is tomorrow. The only certainty is what exists now, won't exist tomorrow. Change is the only constant. The level of immigration will change. It could increase, or decrease. Its source could change. Our needs, and therefore our attractiveness, will almost certainly change. Automation makes that inevitable. Countries develop and retain their own people. People go back to their birthplace. More important than any of that though is that people change. They assimilate, they become absorbed in the culture. We too change. We accept and extend our culture. My parents didn't know what a Chicken Tikka Masala was. We have all changed, even though some don't like admitting it. Change is happening ever faster. Don't resist it, for only misery can result. Embrace and enjoy it. There's nothing to fear. What a ridiculous statement. Pretty much sums up your lack of reasoning. I seriously doubt that when you are outnumbered 10 to 1 that you will absorb the 10. That is bonkers logic. We have been protected by borders and up till now, but that has ended with mass immigration and a rapidly increasing world population. You need to do your homework. Do you think Boris will pull up the drawbridge? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Feb 2022 12.40pm)
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