Yes, it comes from that article, though other than the quotes it isn't 'cut and paste' at all.

You are suggesting that everyone of those 'claims' have been 'twisted'.

So here is your opportunity to explain how these claims differ from the truth.

You stated that Biden has integrity.....You are happy to pass off his lies as 'errors of judgement' while demonising Trump's lies.

Perhaps you should learn what integrity actually is.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Oct 2020 11.53am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

"Twisted" in the world journalism equals presented from a particular perspective. Missing out facts that don't match the narrative that you wish to present. Not necessarily untrue, or legal action might follow, but not the whole truth either. As I said, Biden offered explanations for some and apologies for others, but these didn't feature. Responsible journalists, even when they cover Trump, will publish the other side of the argument, although often with a metaphorical raised eyebrow.

That's how they differ from the truth. Part of the truth is not the truth.

I am not "passing off" anything. I am saying it as I see it and have been openly critical of Biden, who I believe to be a fundamentally good man, with integrity in his soul, but who has had to operate in the murky world of US politics. A world which leaves no-one unscathed.

It's not whether Biden doesn't have a history or regrets. It's whether the USA, and the rest of the world, would be better off with him or Trump.

We hold different opinions about that and in a few weeks will know where the balance of opinion in the USA is. Although we actually can be 99% sure the popular vote will be in Biden's favour and only the electoral college system could interfere with him becoming POTUS.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

So what you don't like is the biased presentation....god the irony is overwhelming.

Let the record show that I presented you with the opportunity to explain how any of these Biden quotes were 'twisted' (your word) in terms of their truth.

Instead you want to complain that they aren't being kind to him and accepting his excuses.

Remember, that post was in response to you claiming that Biden was a man of integrity. You weren't qualifying that statement until I showed the actual truth.

I put it to you that 'integrity' isn't compatible with someone who has openly lied to audiences all through his political career.....Perhaps you should ask 'cornpop'.

He 'had' to operate in politics? That's news to me.

What's true is that the highlighted text is a paradoxical statement.

Lies are 'regrets' now are they?

Due to demographic change the Republicans are on borrowed time, whether they lose here or in 24....The Democrats could literally put up a man suffering from early stage dementia and still win....oh wait.

It has nothing to do with the quality or reason of the arguments....it's a similar situation to Khan in London.

It doesn't matter how bad he is.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Trump's manhood has probably been in more hot women than tampax.

Money is a bearded clam magnet.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

As more of a sober reading, not pre-designated based on the candidates race, I'd say that they both got a few punches in at opportune moments but telegraphed others. Pence has an effective debating style, returning to previous points repeatedly in a calm but assured way - something he's known for - in the face of inept moderation. Harris was adept at pointing out Trump's unpalatable comments and behaviours on race and the military. Biden actually missed that trick when Trump was slamming him on his attitudes towards the military. Aside from his sons military service, he should've highlighted that Trump gleefully demeaned someone's status on account that they were a prisoner of war.

The debate likely didn't change anything really though, it was low on substance and policy but balanced enough than anyone in either camp is unlikely to have been swayed. Independents will likely wait until further Trump vs Biden debates, if that is, they actually happen.

Edited by BlueJay (08 Oct 2020 2.37pm)

Yeah, some things i do respect the don for, lucky cnut!