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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 02 Sep 19 9.41am
Only three goals scored, but the fewest goals conceded in the PL so far. Of course this is largely due to playing ten men behind the ball, but with Sakho back (and the gently introduction of Camarasa) we might be a bit braver going forward. Here's hoping.
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Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 02 Sep 19 9.41am

Only three goals scored, but the fewest goals conceded in the PL so far. Of course this is largely due to playing ten men behind the ball, but with Sakho back (and the gently introduction of Camarasa) we might be a bit braver going forward.

Here's hoping.

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 02 Sep 19 10.36am
Football is a results game. No one can argue with our 2019 results so far. Surely Roy should be lauded, especially with the limited resources at his disposal: [Link]
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Bexley Kent 02 Sep 19 10.36am

Football is a results game. No one can argue with our 2019 results so far. Surely Roy should be lauded, especially with the limited resources at his disposal:

[Link]

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Sep 19 11.15am
Originally posted by coulsdoneagle This post has been merged from a topic called 'a question for those who criticize Roy ' by bexleydave I think most of the fan ire has been directed to Parish and that’s probably fair. If we did get a record points tally again this season it would be on Roy pretty much single handedly. But ultimately his sometimes negative tactics and decisions to play certain players and styles are because of the fact that he has been hamstrung by the board and not given the tools he needs. Despite fans questioning the way we play at times, Roy is doing a remarkable job with the tools at his disposal. I’m sure we would all love to see Meyer and Camarasa playing neat one twos and pulling the strings, but the fact is we don’t have a full balanced team that can play that way. The people calling for these players to play when we are 7 points from 4 are people who don’t really understand football. I’d love to see what Roy is capable of after being backed significantly in the next window, I really think we could kick on. My one criticism is that he doesn’t give the kids enough of a chance, but that may be because they are not good enough. I’d love to see Kirby get 5-10 minutes here and there. More extremes again. Before I say this, I was pleased to see us flashing balls across the goal vs villa and not the Zaha dribble show. There were But we can play one attacking midfielder, especially if we played a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-3, which is balanced and very possible. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 02 Sep 19 11.15am

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

This post has been merged from a topic called 'a question for those who criticize Roy ' by bexleydave

I think most of the fan ire has been directed to Parish and that’s probably fair. If we did get a record points tally again this season it would be on Roy pretty much single handedly.

But ultimately his sometimes negative tactics and decisions to play certain players and styles are because of the fact that he has been hamstrung by the board and not given the tools he needs.

Despite fans questioning the way we play at times, Roy is doing a remarkable job with the tools at his disposal. I’m sure we would all love to see Meyer and Camarasa playing neat one twos and pulling the strings, but the fact is we don’t have a full balanced team that can play that way. The people calling for these players to play when we are 7 points from 4 are people who don’t really understand football.

I’d love to see what Roy is capable of after being backed significantly in the next window, I really think we could kick on.

My one criticism is that he doesn’t give the kids enough of a chance, but that may be because they are not good enough. I’d love to see Kirby get 5-10 minutes here and there.

More extremes again. Before I say this, I was pleased to see us flashing balls across the goal vs villa and not the Zaha dribble show. There were But we can play one attacking midfielder, especially if we played a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-3, which is balanced and very possible.

COYP

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The Dolphin 02 Sep 19 1.21pm
Always happy to admit when I am wrong!!!!! The 2019 stats are incredible actually and other comments on here about Hodgson being hamstrung by others is a fair call - I pretty much said that anyway. I would like fresh blood still at the end of the season but it seems that he and Lewington have done a better job than I give them credit for! We could still try and win games at home better than we do - some dreadful losses within that form guide - but overall I am and was happy - I just want us to be more adventurous sometimes and take the easier games by the scruff of the net, make substitutions earlier and so on. Gob shut on this one now - for now anyway!
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02 Sep 19 1.21pm

Always happy to admit when I am wrong!!!!!
The 2019 stats are incredible actually and other comments on here about Hodgson being hamstrung by others is a fair call - I pretty much said that anyway.
I would like fresh blood still at the end of the season but it seems that he and Lewington have done a better job than I give them credit for!
We could still try and win games at home better than we do - some dreadful losses within that form guide - but overall I am and was happy - I just want us to be more adventurous sometimes and take the easier games by the scruff of the net, make substitutions earlier and so on.
Gob shut on this one now - for now anyway!

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kev64 Cambs 02 Sep 19 3.25pm
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle Football is a results game. No one can argue with our 2019 results so far. Surely Roy should be lauded, especially with the limited resources at his disposal: [Link] Considering we are plus 40m in the bank and BHA are minus 67m in this transfer window looking at the 19 table not to shabby.
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kev64

Cambs 02 Sep 19 3.25pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Football is a results game. No one can argue with our 2019 results so far. Surely Roy should be lauded, especially with the limited resources at his disposal:

[Link]

Considering we are plus 40m in the bank and BHA are minus 67m in this transfer window looking at the 19 table not to shabby.

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EddieMac 02 Sep 19 3.50pm
I have the odd occasion where I get frustrated with Roy but I think he is great for our club and the best we are going to get at this moment. He knows how to play in this divison and he is tacticaly miles ahead of most managers in this division. 4 games in and we have conceded the least amount of goals in the division and that is without our first choice centre back pairing and losing our right back. You can say what you like about Roy but he knows how to organise a team. I couldn't care less how we win I just want 3 points on the board by 5pm Saturday or else my day is in tatters. People out there praising the likes of Potter for having a go at City but they lost 4 nil. That wont be the only time they lose 4 nil this year. The game was over as a contest within a few minutes. We are very rarely completely out of games in the 80th minute.
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02 Sep 19 3.50pm

I have the odd occasion where I get frustrated with Roy but I think he is great for our club and the best we are going to get at this moment. He knows how to play in this divison and he is tacticaly miles ahead of most managers in this division.

4 games in and we have conceded the least amount of goals in the division and that is without our first choice centre back pairing and losing our right back. You can say what you like about Roy but he knows how to organise a team.

I couldn't care less how we win I just want 3 points on the board by 5pm Saturday or else my day is in tatters.

People out there praising the likes of Potter for having a go at City but they lost 4 nil. That wont be the only time they lose 4 nil this year. The game was over as a contest within a few minutes. We are very rarely completely out of games in the 80th minute.

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PatrickA London 03 Sep 19 10.18am
An interesting statistic from the Times yesterday. On the Average Age of Starting X1s in the Premier League at the weekend Palace were bottom of the table with an average age not far short of 30 years old (Chelsea were top at 24 years old). That’s probably ok for this season but quite clearly the squad is getting older and fresh blood will be needed sooner rather than later. It’s not as if we have a group of youngsters knocking on the door of the first team. Younger players like Riedewald and Sorloth have not worked out and It will be necessary to improve our selection of this type of player to make sure we don’t go backwards taking into account an ageing squad. Hodgson seems to prefer the mature experienced player but this is the last year of his contract so the club also has challenges in terms of succession planning.
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PatrickA

London 03 Sep 19 10.18am

An interesting statistic from the Times yesterday.
On the Average Age of Starting X1s in the Premier League at the weekend Palace were bottom of the table with an average age not far short of 30 years old (Chelsea were top at 24 years old).
That’s probably ok for this season but quite clearly the squad is getting older and fresh blood will be needed sooner rather than later.
It’s not as if we have a group of youngsters knocking on the door of the first team.
Younger players like Riedewald and Sorloth have not worked out and It will be necessary to improve our selection of this type of player to make sure we don’t go backwards taking into account an ageing squad.
Hodgson seems to prefer the mature experienced player but this is the last year of his contract so the club also has challenges in terms of succession planning.

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Den1923 03 Sep 19 1.42pm
Originally posted by EddieMac I have the odd occasion where I get frustrated with Roy but I think he is great for our club and the best we are going to get at this moment. He knows how to play in this divison and he is tacticaly miles ahead of most managers in this division. 4 games in and we have conceded the least amount of goals in the division and that is without our first choice centre back pairing and losing our right back. You can say what you like about Roy but he knows how to organise a team. I couldn't care less how we win I just want 3 points on the board by 5pm Saturday or else my day is in tatters. People out there praising the likes of Potter for having a go at City but they lost 4 nil. That wont be the only time they lose 4 nil this year. The game was over as a contest within a few minutes. We are very rarely completely out of games in the 80th minute. Well said, happy to win 1-0 anytime!
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Den1923

03 Sep 19 1.42pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

I couldn't care less how we win I just want 3 points on the board by 5pm Saturday or else my day is in tatters.

Well said, happy to win 1-0 anytime!

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scuffy orpington 03 Sep 19 2.53pm
Roy has 100 points from 76 games. That works out 50 a season which would be our Premier League record. Given the obvious flaws in the squad, that'a tremendous record and fourth in the calendar year. I honestly think now is the time for a one year contract extension.
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orpington 03 Sep 19 2.53pm

Roy has 100 points from 76 games. That works out 50 a season which would be our Premier League record. Given the obvious flaws in the squad, that'a tremendous record and fourth in the calendar year. I honestly think now is the time for a one year contract extension.

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Bangell Oxford 03 Sep 19 9.00pm
This thread is quite pointless. Hodgson is doing a great job with what he's got - discussion of what the board is providing him to work with should be quite separate.
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Bangell

Oxford 03 Sep 19 9.00pm

This thread is quite pointless. Hodgson is doing a great job with what he's got - discussion of what the board is providing him to work with should be quite separate.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 04 Sep 19 10.17am
Originally posted by Bangell This thread is quite pointless. Hodgson is doing a great job with what he's got - discussion of what the board is providing him to work with should be quite separate. Been saying this from day one but we have to remember that players brought in are always going to be a gamble ..been saying that too from day one.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 04 Sep 19 10.17am

Originally posted by Bangell

This thread is quite pointless. Hodgson is doing a great job with what he's got - discussion of what the board is providing him to work with should be quite separate.

Been saying this from day one but we have to remember that players brought in are always going to be a gamble ..been saying that too from day one.

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Painter Croydon 04 Sep 19 10.55am
Originally posted by Bangell This thread is quite pointless. Hodgson is doing a great job with what he's got - discussion of what the board is providing him to work with should be quite separate. It will be a sad day, when he eventually retires.
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Painter

Croydon 04 Sep 19 10.55am

Originally posted by Bangell

This thread is quite pointless. Hodgson is doing a great job with what he's got - discussion of what the board is providing him to work with should be quite separate.

It will be a sad day, when he eventually retires.

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