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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 20 12.23pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops This along with 27 officers injured in 2 days makes my blood boil more than anything else. I want to see the full force of the law used against those who have done this. It is wanton criminality and vandalism and has absolutely nothing to do with protesting. If ever there was something that inflames a situation then they may have just found it. There will be very little sympathy from the masses towards this and if there is (evidently in the media perhaps by the lack of coverage by the BBC) then our country is going to shiite. If you want to gain understanding and support from the majority, have a good think about a) what you are trying to achieve and b) how you go about it. Excellent post. You know, and I know that it will never be enough. The only silver lining is that lots of people are now seeing it in front of them. Which is why the leftist media are desperately trying to censor and put the best spin they can on it. But their lying and misdirection has reached almost comic levels. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

07 Jun 20 12.23pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

This along with 27 officers injured in 2 days makes my blood boil more than anything else. I want to see the full force of the law used against those who have done this. It is wanton criminality and vandalism and has absolutely nothing to do with protesting. If ever there was something that inflames a situation then they may have just found it. There will be very little sympathy from the masses towards this and if there is (evidently in the media perhaps by the lack of coverage by the BBC) then our country is going to shiite.

If you want to gain understanding and support from the majority, have a good think about a) what you are trying to achieve and b) how you go about it.

Excellent post.

You know, and I know that it will never be enough.

The only silver lining is that lots of people are now seeing it in front of them.

Which is why the leftist media are desperately trying to censor and put the best spin they can on it.

But their lying and misdirection has reached almost comic levels.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Jun 20 12.28pm
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Caterham 07 Jun 20 12.28pm

‘I can’t believed I’m’.... but I’m trying to save my job.

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Spiderman Horsham 07 Jun 20 1.07pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman [Tweet Link] Stop using Police horses at demonstrations! Well stop the violence then!
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Horsham 07 Jun 20 1.07pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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Stop using Police horses at demonstrations! Well stop the violence then!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Jun 20 1.28pm
I can't help but think that social media is a big part of the problem. Anything can be shown selectively, from a certain angle or edited, but many take those images, videos etc as gospel truth and get incredibly agitated. Even on a football forum, the News and Politics section is divided. Times that by a million for the 'real world', outside of our small bubble on the worldwide Web. I'm thinking platforms need to be accountable for their content, in the same way as TV or print media. I'm not saying this to be pro-Trump, an end to the lies and half truths, or at least consequences for them, would be useful for everyone. I also don't want massive censorship so it's a hard balance and difficult to implement. However, for instance, I never understood how it was okay for ISIS beheading videos to be all over the place online. I never once watched one, but people I talk to seem to have all seen them. In what kind of a world is that okay? You may think you know what your kids watch online: I hope you know they haven't seen this. I don't watch the violent videos, from either/ any side of any debate as I don't want to validate them with an extra 'view'. I'm actually asking others to do the same - including everyone here. The videos are not informative or educational: they are designed for a response. Rise above it and think for yourselves - as I can see many are. I think all sides are posting fake news, to quote a Trumpism. Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.29pm) Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.30pm) Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Jun 20 1.28pm

I can't help but think that social media is a big part of the problem. Anything can be shown selectively, from a certain angle or edited, but many take those images, videos etc as gospel truth and get incredibly agitated. Even on a football forum, the News and Politics section is divided. Times that by a million for the 'real world', outside of our small bubble on the worldwide Web.
I'm thinking platforms need to be accountable for their content, in the same way as TV or print media. I'm not saying this to be pro-Trump, an end to the lies and half truths, or at least consequences for them, would be useful for everyone. I also don't want massive censorship so it's a hard balance and difficult to implement.
However, for instance, I never understood how it was okay for ISIS beheading videos to be all over the place online. I never once watched one, but people I talk to seem to have all seen them. In what kind of a world is that okay? You may think you know what your kids watch online: I hope you know they haven't seen this.
I don't watch the violent videos, from either/ any side of any debate as I don't want to validate them with an extra 'view'. I'm actually asking others to do the same - including everyone here. The videos are not informative or educational: they are designed for a response. Rise above it and think for yourselves - as I can see many are.
I think all sides are posting fake news, to quote a Trumpism.

Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.29pm)

Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.30pm)

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Stirlingsays 07 Jun 20 2.01pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I can't help but think that social media is a big part of the problem. Anything can be shown selectively, from a certain angle or edited, but many take those images, videos etc as gospel truth and get incredibly agitated. Even on a football forum, the News and Politics section is divided. Times that by a million for the 'real world', outside of our small bubble on the worldwide Web. I'm thinking platforms need to be accountable for their content, in the same way as TV or print media. I'm not saying this to be pro-Trump, an end to the lies and half truths, or at least consequences for them, would be useful for everyone. I also don't want massive censorship so it's a hard balance and difficult to implement. However, for instance, I never understood how it was okay for ISIS beheading videos to be all over the place online. I never once watched one, but people I talk to seem to have all seen them. In what kind of a world is that okay? You may think you know what your kids watch online: I hope you know they haven't seen this. I don't watch the violent videos, from either/ any side of any debate as I don't want to validate them with an extra 'view'. I'm actually asking others to do the same - including everyone here. The videos are not informative or educational: they are designed for a response. Rise above it and think for yourselves - as I can see many are. I think all sides are posting fake news, to quote a Trumpism. Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.29pm) Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.30pm) I think you make some valid points but there are problems, that you recognise therein. In terms of extreme violence and murder the negative consequences of people seeing that are obvious It's the same, if to a lesser destructive extent, with p00rn. None of us want young children being exposed to any of it. Ah but when it comes to what to do. Once the technology is there it's there....it's the same issue with nuclear weapons. We know that soon as you give censorship over to an external body, questions can be asked about its political nature...We can point at the social media companies but it's everywhere.....I mean look at what's happened here with advertising standards making intersectional feminism actual industry law. The issue with censorship bodies is that they then become the arbiters of truth and will always look to extend their remit and reach. It's a difficult one that doesn't have an answer yet. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2020 2.02pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

07 Jun 20 2.01pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.29pm)

Edited by ASCPFC (07 Jun 2020 1.30pm)

I think you make some valid points but there are problems, that you recognise therein.

In terms of extreme violence and murder the negative consequences of people seeing that are obvious

It's the same, if to a lesser destructive extent, with p00rn.

None of us want young children being exposed to any of it.

Ah but when it comes to what to do. Once the technology is there it's there....it's the same issue with nuclear weapons.

We know that soon as you give censorship over to an external body, questions can be asked about its political nature...We can point at the social media companies but it's everywhere.....I mean look at what's happened here with advertising standards making intersectional feminism actual industry law.

The issue with censorship bodies is that they then become the arbiters of truth and will always look to extend their remit and reach.

It's a difficult one that doesn't have an answer yet.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2020 2.02pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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BlueJay UK 07 Jun 20 2.36pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops This along with 27 officers injured in 2 days makes my blood boil more than anything else. I want to see the full force of the law used against those who have done this. It is wanton criminality and vandalism and has absolutely nothing to do with protesting. If ever there was something that inflames a situation then they may have just found it. There will be very little sympathy from the masses towards this and if there is (evidently in the media perhaps by the lack of coverage by the BBC) then our country is going to shiite. No argument from me. There have been some large and peaceful protests held elsewhere in the UK, but that wasn't the case with some elements here. The disruptive and criminal elements of this or any protest should be taken to task. Those spooking horses by hurling bikes at them, resulting in her injury, are especially sacks of sh!t. Thankfully there's pretty clear footage, so I can't imagine them not getting a well deserved knock at the door. Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2020 2.37pm)
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UK 07 Jun 20 2.36pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

No argument from me. There have been some large and peaceful protests held elsewhere in the UK, but that wasn't the case with some elements here. The disruptive and criminal elements of this or any protest should be taken to task. Those spooking horses by hurling bikes at them, resulting in her injury, are especially sacks of sh!t. Thankfully there's pretty clear footage, so I can't imagine them not getting a well deserved knock at the door.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2020 2.37pm)

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BlueJay UK 07 Jun 20 2.43pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I can't help but think that social media is a big part of the problem. Anything can be shown selectively, from a certain angle or edited, but many take those images, videos etc as gospel truth and get incredibly agitated. Even on a football forum, the News and Politics section is divided. Times that by a million for the 'real world', outside of our small bubble on the worldwide Web. I doubt we're entirely aligned politically, but you're right. Your words aren't a world away from what I was saying the other day - see below. Wanting government to solve it could be a case of "careful what you wish for" because they too have their own biases and are part of the polarisation, not apart from it. But what you highlight is correct. "I honestly believe that the parallel existences that those on both the wayward end of left and right opt into on social media has f***ed a lot of people up mentally. Like a kid in a candy shop, giving people exactly what they want rather than a balanced totality of the good, bad and the ugly realities of what they both believe and don't believe leads to very warped perspectives. Something tells me that those twitter "commentators" knowingly trotting out their intentionally easy to digest, one dimensional takes are doing much better financially from their venture than their adherents are emotionally. " Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2020 2.44pm)
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BlueJay

UK 07 Jun 20 2.43pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I doubt we're entirely aligned politically, but you're right. Your words aren't a world away from what I was saying the other day - see below. Wanting government to solve it could be a case of "careful what you wish for" because they too have their own biases and are part of the polarisation, not apart from it. But what you highlight is correct.

"I honestly believe that the parallel existences that those on both the wayward end of left and right opt into on social media has f***ed a lot of people up mentally. Like a kid in a candy shop, giving people exactly what they want rather than a balanced totality of the good, bad and the ugly realities of what they both believe and don't believe leads to very warped perspectives. Something tells me that those twitter "commentators" knowingly trotting out their intentionally easy to digest, one dimensional takes are doing much better financially from their venture than their adherents are emotionally. "

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2020 2.44pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 07 Jun 20 3.39pm
John barnes on sky said " I didnt experience racism, i experienced racist incidents". What's the difference? He also has no problem with Keith lemon characters. How can his take be so different to 1000s of others. Hes black after all. Have a lot of these protestors got confused or has he got black privilege and they havent?
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The garden of England 07 Jun 20 3.39pm

John barnes on sky said
" I didnt experience racism, i experienced racist incidents".
What's the difference?
He also has no problem with Keith lemon characters.
How can his take be so different to 1000s of others. Hes black after all. Have a lot of these protestors got confused or has he got
black privilege and they havent?

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Teddy Eagle 07 Jun 20 3.56pm
Originally posted by cryrst John barnes on sky said " I didnt experience racism, i experienced racist incidents". What's the difference? He also has no problem with Keith lemon characters. How can his take be so different to 1000s of others. Hes black after all. Have a lot of these protestors got confused or has he got black privilege and they havent? It is strange because according to the media the entire Black Community share a single opinion on every subject and have identical life experiences. Meanwhile is the ennobled millionaire Lenny Henry going to apologise for impersonating David Bellamy?
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Teddy Eagle

07 Jun 20 3.56pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It is strange because according to the media the entire Black Community share a single opinion on every subject and have identical life experiences.
Meanwhile is the ennobled millionaire Lenny Henry going to apologise for impersonating David Bellamy?

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