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Hansy 29 Jun 17 2.12pm | |
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It's a parliament/council problem not a particular party problem. Unfortunately the last 10-15 years have been building up towards this. Hopefully it becomes a criminal offence and whoever decided to use the cladding which was against regulations will be brought before a court. Labour voted in favour of fire inspections being done by the council and not the fire service. Tories cutting the Fire service further. Use of Cladding was during both parties control of government. This is why it is a parliament problem.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Jun 17 4.42pm | |
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Worth a read of this thread. If true the government should be ashamed of themselves [Tweet Link]
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Jul 17 12.51am | |
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Next you'll be asking the press to self regulate...
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7mins In the bush 03 Jul 17 10.53am | |
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Not sure if it's been covered, but some of those flats were illegally sublet... no paper trail. My current squeeze is works in housing benefit... illegal sub letting is a massive problem... and often hard to prove... as the people living there are usually illegals. Edited by 7mins (03 Jul 2017 10.54am)
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 03 Jul 17 12.54pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Not sure if it's been covered, but some of those flats were illegally sublet... no paper trail. My current squeeze is works in housing benefit... illegal sub letting is a massive problem... and often hard to prove... as the people living there are usually illegals. Edited by 7mins (03 Jul 2017 10.54am) And that's one of the main problmes with knowing how many people died. People cry foul over the lack of clarity but the reality is no one knows. The government have already said that no one will have their immigration status questioned and that sub letters will not be prosecuted. They don't even know how many survivors because of the above reasons.
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7mins In the bush 03 Jul 17 2.39pm | |
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I'd still prosecute the sub letting scum. The fact the haven't volunteered the information shows me they're only interested in saving their own skin. Can't stand benefit cheats.... I paid over 31k in tax last year... I've got no problem with that... I believe in the welfare state/NHS/schools/etc... but my mums elderly neighbour, never signed on... owned her own house... died after being refused care visits... she spent 3 days on her bathroom floor.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Jul 17 3.36pm | |
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7mins In the bush 09 Jul 17 8.36am | |
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The people that sub-let aren't survivors. They weren't in the tower, and as people rightly question politicians, the thieves that sub-let... have got off... I know some are still refusing to answer questions... they're withholding info that would identify dead people. Even after being offered a amnesty. Some want a agreement that the amnesty goes beyond this one case... they're worried that owning up to this case could lead somewhere else... not covered by the amnesty.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Aug 17 11.12pm | |
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A month or so on Some investigative background.
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wordup 11 Aug 17 11.14pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
The people that sub-let aren't survivors. They weren't in the tower, and as people rightly question politicians, the thieves that sub-let... have got off... I know some are still refusing to answer questions... they're withholding info that would identify dead people. Even after being offered a amnesty. Some want a agreement that the amnesty goes beyond this one case... they're worried that owning up to this case could lead somewhere else... not covered by the amnesty. It's sad to think that in part due to subletting, we may never know the identities of some of those who perished.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 9.13pm | |
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Just to keep people up to date, a palace fan's view... [Tweet Link]
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simlaboy coulsdon 15 Sep 17 11.55am | |
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Shouldn't the first evidence be given by the guy with the fridge ?
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