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Stuk Flag Top half 19 Dec 16 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Don't upset Stuk by posting one sides argument. Apparently RMT press releases are irrelevant and all lies (despite no evidence to back this up or if it's even been read)

Upset... yeah right.

He wasn't replying to me. And I said anything from them is biased, which obviously they are, rather than irrelevant or lies. But we know you read and hear what you want to, rather than what's actually written or stated.


 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Dec 16 4.30pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Upset... yeah right.

He wasn't replying to me. And I said anything from them is biased, which obviously they are, rather than irrelevant or lies. But we know you read and hear what you want to, rather than what's actually written or stated.


At least I read stuff, even if it is a bit long.

Of course it's biased, it's one side of the argument, you could counter it by offering up what the other side says to balance it out if you want.

Edited by nickgusset (19 Dec 2016 4.31pm)

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 19 Dec 16 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

It was a rabble rousing speech in front of union members. I hear the rhetoric at many meetings. But that's all it is, rhetoric.

So you don't mind them talking bollocks and lying to your face then?

Normally you'd say they've let the cat out of the bag, but in this case it's just what everyone suspected anyway.

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 19 Dec 16 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

At least I read stuff, even if it is a bit long.

Of course it's biased, it's one side of the argument, you could counter it by offering up what the other side says to balance it out if you want.

Edited by nickgusset (19 Dec 2016 4.31pm)

I don't have the time nor inclination. They've been lying all the long that "it's all about safety" and no amount of waffling from them will change that. I said from the start that they'd get further by telling the truth, that they're worried about jobs and kicking the conservatives at the same time is a bonus to them.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Dec 16 5.02pm

Originally posted by Stuk

I don't have the time nor inclination. They've been lying all the long that "it's all about safety" and no amount of waffling from them will change that. I said from the start that they'd get further by telling the truth, that they're worried about jobs and kicking the conservatives at the same time is a bonus to them.

So even though you haven't read it you are convinced it is lies. Any other evidence to back your assertion that the union is lying?

 

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IMpalace Flag London 19 Dec 16 5.12pm Send a Private Message to IMpalace Add IMpalace as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

So even though you haven't read it you are convinced it is lies. Any other evidence to back your assertion that the union is lying?

How about the fact that their leader told a room full of people it wasn't about safety last week? That work?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Dec 16 5.54pm

Originally posted by IMpalace

How about the fact that their leader told a room full of people it wasn't about safety last week? That work?

What's your source for this gem?

 

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IMpalace Flag London 19 Dec 16 5.59pm Send a Private Message to IMpalace Add IMpalace as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

What's your source for this gem?

President of RMT said his union were coordinating strikes with others to "hurt the working class hating Tory government"

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Dec 16 6.01pm

Originally posted by IMpalace

President of RMT said his union were coordinating strikes with others to "hurt the working class hating Tory government"

Source? Context? Audience?

 

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IMpalace Flag London 19 Dec 16 6.18pm Send a Private Message to IMpalace Add IMpalace as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Source? Context? Audience?

Source: Every news organisation in the country
Context: said by the president of the RMT, not sure what more context you want
Audience: per bbc "numerous speeches including a speech to the NSSN"

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Dec 16 6.30pm

Originally posted by IMpalace

Source: Every news organisation in the country
Context: said by the president of the RMT, not sure what more context you want
Audience: per bbc "numerous speeches including a speech to the NSSN"

The same sources that said Corbyn stormed out of a party because they played Things can only get better, although it transpires he left way before the song was played?

What else did he say other than Hurt the anti working class Tory government.

Perhaps that is his wish, Id go along with it, but I wouldn't use it as a reason to strike.

However, Co ordinating with other unions over strike days is a good tactical move.


Did you know that all of the strikes we are hearing about have happened because the company refused to sit around the negotiation table with the unions.

Wad that reported in your news sources?

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 19 Dec 16 6.35pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

1979 all over again.....ha ha ha.and it was reported him saying that.
Yeah a guy on well over100k a year wants to hurt the very people he supposedly represents....reminds me of all the well to do lefties preaching about more homes,then as soon as theysay they are gonna build 200 new homes near their village they protest.think it's called hypocrisy.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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