Fair enough. Booby trapping your home (having moved out)before a migrant moves in is a perfectly reasonable and non extremist position for an individual to take.Being inherently averse to anyone of a different race,religion or ethnicity to you is a perfectly reasonable and non extreme position to take.Anyone who finds such positions distasteful is by definition plainly a Dave Spart type member of the "new left".

I've already said what my position on immigration controls for the UK is on here,more than once.I believe in free movement of goods,services and labour within the EU because of the overall benefits.I believe in immigration controls re non EU nationals,based on a points-like system similar to that in operation in Australia.One that seeks not to discriminate on grounds of race,religion or ethnicity.Not too dissimilar to what we already have in place.I do not support illegal migration into the UK. I think EU members may need to review the Schengen arrangement (we never signed up). I believe in compliance with the 1951 UN Convention re asylum.A perhaps "middle of the road" position to anyone not viewing the road from a position anchored firmly on the fringes of the verge of the right hand side of the road.

What is your ideal immigration system for 1. Europe and 2. the UK?

What is your solution for dealing with "push" factors in countries of origin?

What is your solution in respect of migrants/refugees who have already reached Europe's shores?

Edited by legaleagle (09 Aug 2015 11.01am)

Your first line is in and of itself so off the wall and bonkers it shows the difficulty of any reasoned discussion with you.

Send all foreigners home you say? Then you wonder why words like fascist and racist are used!

Sorry that you feel suggesting a sensible discussion of issues (including sorting matters out in countries of origin) is "twaddle".

Edited by legaleagle (09 Aug 2015 10.14am)

Oh the irony.A lecture on tolerance from FUE.

You have proposed booby trapping a home occupied by migrants (and likely their kids) and to send the SAS over (I think with you joining them)to mow down all the would-be migrants (and their kids) in Calais.These struck me as fascistic-like sentiments.

Your partner in tolerance LS (as Derben his red-carded predecessor) suggested he'd move away if people of a different religion,race or ethnicity to him moved in near him (regardless of what they were like as people).The very essence of tolerance, ho hum.

Somewhat different to simply disagreeing with anyone with a different view to me about immigration controls,the EU or migrants,no?

How ridiculous of me to be so intolerant by not being tolerant of such sentiments (and viewing them as exhibiting fascistic-like sentiments)and in so doing not realise my views themselves constitute the essence of fascism.

But ,if FUE said so ,it must be true and I'll happily withdraw it.

Instead,such sentiments as FUE's and LS' strike me as the obnoxious mutterings of extreme neanderthals.

Is that ok corkery or does it still make me a horseshoe?

Edited by legaleagle (09 Aug 2015 11.08pm)

No,I just think people who would not live next to anyone of a different religion,race or ethnicity to them on principle (regardless of what they are like as people) are correctly described as spouting the obnoxious mutterings of extreme neanderthals

Though to be fair to you,it seems you make no distinction between actual immigrants and those who have been born here.

The question is not why we need border (including immigration) controls of some type or other since you agree with some form of them in principle and so do I (as you would know from my post earlier today).The question is rather what form such controls should take, and why, and causal factors. That is where we very much differ and I very much doubt anything I could write would change your distinctive viewpoint (or vice versa).

We also differ plainly in our attitudes towards people of a different religion,race and ethnicity to each of us living here (and indeed likely born here).We further differ on what might be done to reduce outward migration from countries in crisis.

In short,we differ.

Edited by legaleagle (10 Aug 2015 12.05am)