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legaleagle  17 Feb 17 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
But isn't it Farron who wishes to subvert democracy and reverse the Referendum result, no? Keep blaming Sir Nigel for the result but deep in your black, twisted liberal heart you know you lot blew it through your arrogance and metropolitan social engineering agenda, no? Or did we misunderstand you, no? You have indeed,in your blinkeredness, completely misssed or ignored the point,yes?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
They are all of a kind but if we had a top 10 scumbag chart, Blair would be No1. Surestart was a good idea that worked, that pushes him behind Maggie and May.
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 matt_himself Matataland 17 Feb 17 8.04pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
You have indeed,in your blinkeredness, completely misssed or ignored the point,yes? I don't think so. People voted out. You lot blew it though your arrogance and inability to sell the virtues of the EU project and globalisation. No?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 17 8.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Surestart was a good idea that worked, that pushes him behind Maggie and May. Jesus Christ man he was complicit in an illegal war costing thousands of lives and is still trying to feather his own nest by attempting to subvert democracy.
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| elgrande bedford 17 Feb 17 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Surestart was a good idea that worked, that pushes him behind Maggie and May. f***ing he'll I have heard it all now,a man who took us into a war on knowingly false information,costs the lives of over 400 British servicemen/women,not to mention 1000s of iraqis....
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Feb 17 9.02pm |
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Why can't Blair just fcuk off and leave us to get on with it. He is not a politician anymore. He earns an indecent salary from his various interests, and has no idea (now, or ever) what the electorate need or want. He fcuked our deficit, along with his sidekick Gordon Brown, started a war (illegally), and is now looking to get a position (President?) in the EU. The man is a megalomaniac. He loves himself, "so fcuk you!". "DO AS I SAY!" is his mantra. Prick.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Jesus Christ man he was complicit in an illegal war costing thousands of lives and is still trying to feather his own nest by attempting to subvert democracy. Suddenly you are worried about lives abroad, but don't want Britain to do the right thing by those we helped displace. Thatcher was worse than Blair.
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| elgrande bedford 17 Feb 17 9.23pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Suddenly you are worried about lives abroad, but don't want Britain to do the right thing by those we helped displace. Thatcher was worse than Blair. Well let the blairs take some in ..they caused it and have enough properties to house them.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Feb 17 9.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Suddenly you are worried about lives abroad, but don't want Britain to do the right thing by those we helped displace. Thatcher was worse than Blair. Thatcher started an illegal war? Are you for real!
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 17 9.33pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Suddenly you are worried about lives abroad, but don't want Britain to do the right thing by those we helped displace. Thatcher was worse than Blair. Are you serious? We need to do the right thing for our own citizens. Something that is alien to you lefties I appreciate. And exactly how was Thatcher worse than Blair? She helped rejuvenate this country from the decaying, backward, unproductive, striker ridden disaster it was in the 70's, won a victory against an aggressor in the Falklands and was a key player in winning the cold war to boot. Blair resigned after pissing loads of money up the wall with little to show for it and got us into an illegal war along with his chum W.
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| legaleagle 17 Feb 17 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I don't think so. People voted out. You lot blew it though your arrogance and inability to sell the virtues of the EU project and globalisation. No? No. The point is that those who rant about politicians who query Brexit being "undemocratic" are spouting IMHO simplistic bilge,fuelled by pure bias against anyone they don't agree with. There is nothing wrong in carrying on perfectly legally campaigning against a principle you are against after a referendum went against you for something contrary to the outcome of a referendum (or more pertinently a particular option in accord with the very general outcome of a referendum).To suggest otherwise is itself "undemocratic".
Referendums are advisory not mandatory...may be a drag for you when you are against a particular policy (though no doubt you'd answer the opposite if you were against a referendum outcome)...its part of our British "heritage" and "constitution"...that thing you guys are meant to consider of overriding importance to prevail (when it suits you).Referendums having their origin in non UK continental Europe! Let's look at some past referendums: 1975 on Common Market: Did the anti EU campaigners then call a halt to their campaigns? Did they hell.Should they have?No Referendum on changing the electoral system.Undemocratic for people to carry on still campaigning for a different system.Come off it guvnor,you are having a larf! Referendum in Scotland:undemocratic for Nationalists to now campaign for independence.Only if you are not a democrat. Referendum in Australia to get rid of the monarchy.Undemocratic to still campaign fore a republic? Only to an inherently undemocratic person. Matthimself: would he have stopped campaigning on HOL for the UK to exit the EU had the referendum been lost? I humbly think not (and fair enough,after all the essence of a democracy is free speech and the right to campaign legally for what you believe in). No? Edited by legaleagle (17 Feb 2017 10.34pm)
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Feb 17 10.38pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
No. The point is that those who rant about politicians who query Brexit being "undemocratic" are spouting IMHO simplistic bilge,fuelled by pure bias against anyone they don't agree with. There is nothing wrong in carrying on perfectly legally campaigning against a principle you are against after a referendum went against you for something contrary to the outcome of a referendum (or more pertinently a particular option in accord with the very general outcome of a referendum).To suggest otherwise is itself "undemocratic".
Referendums are advisory not mandatory...may be a drag for you when you are against a particular policy (though no doubt you'd answer the opposite if you were against a referendum outcome)...its part of our British "heritage" and "constitution"...that thing you guys are meant to consider of overriding importance to prevail (when it suits you).Referendums having their origin in non UK continental Europe! Let's look at some past referendums: 1975 on Common Market: Did the anti EU campaigners then call a halt to their campaigns? Did they hell.Should they have?No Referendum on changing the electoral system.Undemocratic for people to carry on still campaigning for a different system.Come off it guvnor,you are having a larf! Referendum in Scotland:undemocratic for Nationalists to now campaign for independence.Only if you are not a democrat. Referendum in Australia to get rid of the monarchy.Undemocratic to still campaign fore a republic? Only to an inherently undemocratic person. Matthimself: would he have stopped campaigning on HOL for the UK to exit the EU had the referendum been lost? I humbly think not (and fair enough,after all the essence of a democracy is free speech and the right to campaign legally for what you believe in). No? Edited by legaleagle (17 Feb 2017 10.34pm) You sound like a sore loser Legal, get over it!!
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