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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 22 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
There has to be a contract between the voters and their representatives otherwise we might as well abolish voting. I am not talking about the little stuff but if an MP switches party then his constituents are entitled to their say. We don't vote for a party. We vote for a person. They don't represent the members of a party. They represent us all. The voters and their MP do have a contract. We expect them to represent us all. So I believe we must leave it up to the conscience of the MP to decide whether they stand down should they change their affiliation mid term. If they have undergone such a complete transformation of approach that they feel unable to honestly represent the people, then their conscience should demand they stand down. If they feel their approach is consistent, but the party they have been affiliated with has moved away from them, then they ought not. In my own dealings with our local MP we never discuss party politics. She has no idea if I voted for her, or not. The matter we are discussing goes straight to Johnson's lies and other failures. He was her leader, but she has represented my interests without hesitation, just as I expect an MP should do. She has won my respect and thanks. This is the way it is supposed to work.
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Teddy Eagle  25 Oct 22 4.33pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It isn't though just an opinion. It's the only logical conclusion of the system we use. Unless and until we write a constitution which mandates our MPs to vote according to the will of their constituents and, importantly, specifies how that will is to be measured, then they have no other option other than to make their determinations themselves, using their conscience. You can argue for such a change but I fail to see how it could possibly work in the UK, let alone be better. So I don't think it's in any way outdated. I think it's use is grossly misunderstood and misrepresented. The practice you're endorsing is based on Burke's theory.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 25 Oct 22 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
There are global economic problems with high interest rates and energy costs etc etc.Let us not conclude that GB are the only country deep in the mire.We are in the midst of a profound economic crisis but we are certainly not alone. Edited by Willo (25 Oct 2022 2.34pm) The level of indoctrination and lack of introspective critical thinking amongst the religiously inclined never ceases to amaze. But I suppose that's the point Textbook
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cryrst  The garden of England 25 Oct 22 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
The level of indoctrination and lack of introspective critical thinking amongst the religiously inclined never ceases to amaze. But I suppose that's the point Textbook Would that not be the same for labour voters though.
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| Spiderman Horsham 25 Oct 22 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
If someone wishes to keep the information private, I have no trouble with that, my friend. If they wished to share, I might be interested in the response and, in this case definitely interested. Further to this, I feel that my salary is private and I have no wish to share that information with you. There, you see? Easy. It seems blindingly obvious that Willo wishes to keep this information private. Easy
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| Phil’s Barber Crowborough 25 Oct 22 7.12pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
It seems blindingly obvious that Willo wishes to keep this information private. Easy Yes…and we all know why!
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| Glazier#1 25 Oct 22 7.32pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
It seems blindingly obvious that Willo wishes to keep this information private. Easy Well, not so easy. He just told me he'd missed the questions on a number of occasions.
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| Glazier#1 25 Oct 22 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
It seems blindingly obvious that Willo wishes to keep this information private. Easy The 5th Amendment?
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 25 Oct 22 8.25pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Would that not be the same for labour voters though. methinks the Tories have just lost the vote of ALL the working classes. ie Lost the next election Keir Starmer could win the next General election even if he slurs his words, smells of gin, pinches the @.rse of the secretary and wears a Jimmy Savile t-shirt. Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Oct 2022 8.33pm)
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| cryrst The garden of England 25 Oct 22 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
methinks the Tories have just lost the vote of ALL the working classes. ie Lost the next election Keir Starmer could win the next General election even if he slurs his words, smells of gin, pinches the @.rse of the secretary and wears a Jimmy Savile t-shirt. Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Oct 2022 8.33pm) I hope they walk it. Then they can sort out the mess they are so keen to take on; without the money that the tories normally leave them. They can only blame the previous hmg for so long!
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 Oct 22 8.58pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
methinks the Tories have just lost the vote of ALL the working classes. ie Lost the next election Keir Starmer could win the next General election even if he slurs his words, smells of gin, pinches the @.rse of the secretary and wears a Jimmy Savile t-shirt. Edited by PalazioVecchio (25 Oct 2022 8.33pm) At least then he’d have something to claim as ‘personality’.
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| Stirlingsays 25 Oct 22 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I hope they walk it. Then they can sort out the mess they are so keen to take on; without the money that the tories normally leave them. They can only blame the previous hmg for so long! They will just tell the BoE to print money for the financial sector. Just as Sunak is going to do. That's what all of them will up until it won't work anymore.
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