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  Hrolf The Ganger  14 Jun 18 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I actually agree with a lot of what he says but the idea that 'this is an invasion, not immigration' is so ludicrous it delegitimises anything else he says. An invasion is usually done with the aid of military force and with the aim of overthrowing the political status quo where you go, a bit like we did in Syria, first in the 19th century, and then again in the recent war against Assad. Or what we did in Libya against Gaddafi, or what European nations have done in Eritrea, Somalia, and indeed every other African country except for Ethiopia (which Mussollini attempted). The fallout from our failed invasions and colonisations is the enormous number of refugees entering Europe. To claim they are 'invading', when they are coming over on boats that are mainly falling in to the Med and drowning everyone, and when they are usually coming armed with nothing but ID papers and a spare change of clothes is the ramblings of a mad man. This type is far more effective. Using the law for a slow and steady subjugation of the majority in order to pursue an agenda.
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cryrst  The garden of England 14 Jun 18 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If that's provable it's explosive and massive. If it's true and honest do you see how any emotion he may have had about these cases has been ripped from him.
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| dannyboy1978 14 Jun 18 12.54pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I actually agree with a lot of what he says but the idea that 'this is an invasion, not immigration' is so ludicrous it delegitimises anything else he says. An invasion is usually done with the aid of military force and with the aim of overthrowing the political status quo where you go, a bit like we did in Syria, first in the 19th century, and then again in the recent war against Assad. Or what we did in Libya against Gaddafi, or what European nations have done in Eritrea, Somalia, and indeed every other African country except for Ethiopia (which Mussollini attempted). The fallout from our failed invasions and colonisations is the enormous number of refugees entering Europe. To claim they are 'invading', when they are coming over on boats that are mainly falling in to the Med and drowning everyone, and when they are usually coming armed with nothing but ID papers and a spare change of clothes is the ramblings of a mad man. I see over a million people crossing from one continent to another as an invasion. Taking out a dictator is totaĺy different.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jun 18 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If it's true and honest do you see how any emotion he may have had about these cases has been ripped from him. Vulnerable children from broken families without anyone with a sense of duty within them are prey for exploiters whose ethics and conscience are the gutter. Those lowlifes have always existed and we expect the state to constantly be after them. But If those same people work for the state then that is mind blowing. Justice must reserve a special kind of payback for dirt that wears the state's uniform. Corruption paid for by the taxpayer must be replied to with vengeance. If it's true. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2018 1.48pm)
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 14 Jun 18 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I see over a million people crossing from one continent to another as an invasion. Taking out a dictator is totaĺy different. Does that also include the millions of British 'expats' in Spain, Australia, America and every other corner of the globe?
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 14 Jun 18 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Vulnerable children from broken families without anyone with a sense of duty within them are prey for exploiters whose ethics and conscience are the gutter. Those lowlifes have always existed and we expect the state to constantly be after them. But If those same people work for the state then that is mind blowing. Justice must reserve a special kind of payback for dirt that wears the state's uniform. Corruption paid for by the taxpayer must be replied to with vengeance. If it's true. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2018 1.48pm) Like the arms trade for example, which the UN claims accounts for 40% of global corruption, that we are one of the global leaders in, which plays a major role in us starting the wars which lead to refugee groups, and costs us the taxpayer billions every year?
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jun 18 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Like the arms trade for example, which the UN claims accounts for 40% of global corruption, that we are one of the global leaders in, which plays a major role in us starting the wars which lead to refugee groups, and costs us the taxpayer billions every year? It's a bit of a jump but ok. This isn't something I know much about nor care much about. Saying something isn't proof of something....Especially if the UN say it. I'm far more interested in who in the UN is saying it...This is an organisation which elects Saudi Arabia to its woman's rights commission. Requiring proof for statements is true for everything outside of pure opinion...... and that was the last written concept for my previous post. Where is the proof that the UK are corrupt on arm sales? Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2018 2.24pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 14 Jun 18 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I see over a million people crossing from one continent to another as an invasion. Taking out a dictator is totaĺy different. oh cmon. Of course its not an invasion. That would have to be lorryloads of poverty-stricken single young men looking to get a living in the new country and its women folk. They would also need to be culturally very distinct to be considered hostile..language, religion, values, diet, clothing. so you see, not an invasion at all.
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| Direwolf Lincoln 14 Jun 18 4.39pm |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 18 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jun 18 8.00pm |
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When the left ask questions of the right on Hol they are answered.....pretty much all the time. When the right ask questions of the left on Hol they don't answer.....with limited exceptions.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 14 Jun 18 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When the right ask questions of the left on Hol they don't answer.....with limited exceptions. Or they flounce.
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