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Stirlingsays 30 Nov 17 9.49pm
Originally posted by wordup Spot on. Any by the way people know exactly what Britain First are all about. If some here truly know American 'Antifa' inside out but plead ignorance about nutjob groups on their own doorstep just because their politics are more closely aligned then that's a depressing and yet rather predictable state of affairs. Brainwashed. Britain First have form for barging their way into communities acting like arseholes to people based on their perceived religion and skin colour and then turn on the camera looking for a reaction that they can use for propoganda purposes. I have about as much time for that sort of crap as do for people attempting to force their religion upon people. Two halfs of the same s*** sandwich. Though of course to weak minded alt right types so alienated from decent people around them that they latch onto 'Trumped up' American causes these people are 'patriots'. Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 9.44pm) I don't know about this group so you can take your assumptions and shove it. I don't have time for your 'know it all' attitude about how others think either. Coming on here giving it the high and mighty about how others think like you have some inside knowledge. I take what people say at their word. I challenge people on what they say.....not what I think they mean. This is why I dislike the sanctimonious poe faced know it alls so much. I hope Trump gets in again, just to annoy people like you. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 9.51pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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30 Nov 17 9.49pm

Originally posted by wordup

Spot on. Any by the way people know exactly what Britain First are all about. If some here truly know American 'Antifa' inside out but plead ignorance about nutjob groups on their own doorstep just because their politics are more closely aligned then that's a depressing and yet rather predictable state of affairs. Brainwashed.

Britain First have form for barging their way into communities acting like arseholes to people based on their perceived religion and skin colour and then turn on the camera looking for a reaction that they can use for propoganda purposes. I have about as much time for that sort of crap as do for people attempting to force their religion upon people. Two halfs of the same s*** sandwich. Though of course to weak minded alt right types so alienated from decent people around them that they latch onto 'Trumped up' American causes these people are 'patriots'.

Edited by wordup (30 Nov 2017 9.44pm)

I don't know about this group so you can take your assumptions and shove it.

I don't have time for your 'know it all' attitude about how others think either. Coming on here giving it the high and mighty about how others think like you have some inside knowledge.

I take what people say at their word. I challenge people on what they say.....not what I think they mean.

This is why I dislike the sanctimonious poe faced know it alls so much. I hope Trump gets in again, just to annoy people like you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 9.51pm)

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wordup 30 Nov 17 9.53pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I don't know about this group so you can take your assumptions and shove it. I don't have time for your 'know it all' attitude about how others think either. Coming on here giving it the high and mighty about how others think like you have some inside knowledge. I take what people say at their word. I challenge people on what they say.....not what I think they mean. Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are, but know absolutely nothing about Britain First. I wonder why. Wear this stance as a badge of honour if you wish, but it's a very telling unintended confession to anyone capable of thought. I haven't claimed any inside knowledge of anyone or anything either. Who cares if you like what I say? I'm exercising the free speech that you apparently love so much when it's you spouting it but appear affronted by when it's others.
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30 Nov 17 9.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't know about this group so you can take your assumptions and shove it.

I don't have time for your 'know it all' attitude about how others think either. Coming on here giving it the high and mighty about how others think like you have some inside knowledge.

I take what people say at their word. I challenge people on what they say.....not what I think they mean.

Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are, but know absolutely nothing about Britain First. I wonder why. Wear this stance as a badge of honour if you wish, but it's a very telling unintended confession to anyone capable of thought.

I haven't claimed any inside knowledge of anyone or anything either. Who cares if you like what I say? I'm exercising the free speech that you apparently love so much when it's you spouting it but appear affronted by when it's others.

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Mstrobez 30 Nov 17 10.06pm
Originally posted by nickgusset do you not think trump promoting an islamophobic group might go some way to help the simple minded to think otherwise? He could "retweet" the scores of a football match. The action on its own is just so moronic for president of the United States. The fact it was videos to insinuate demonisation of Muslims tweeted by a nutjob British group makes it almost impossible to comprehend, its insanity, a satirical writer couldn't make this s*** up - and that's deeply concerning. I must say I utterly oppose the Tories policy wise and even morally in many cases, but today has been a breath of fresh air to see so many of them publicly condemn this action. Fair play and credit where credit is due, they could've quite easily slimed their way out of doing so for the sake of a trade deal. Although I do still find the pandering to maintaining the "special relationship" with Trumps USA a bit contradictory to the notion of a Brexit Britain taking its pride back and being "more in control", the treading on egg shells would imply the complete opposite. There's a lot wrong going on in Britain at the moment, but I certainly wouldn't wanna swap places with America, at least our government isn't completely insane but I suppose Trump is making Bush look good at the moment so that's not necessarily saying a lot. Feel for decent American people having that absolute s***house as their leader. We're the Arthur over ere!
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30 Nov 17 10.06pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

do you not think trump promoting an islamophobic group might go some way to help the simple minded to think otherwise?

He could "retweet" the scores of a football match. The action on its own is just so moronic for president of the United States. The fact it was videos to insinuate demonisation of Muslims tweeted by a nutjob British group makes it almost impossible to comprehend, its insanity, a satirical writer couldn't make this s*** up - and that's deeply concerning.

I must say I utterly oppose the Tories policy wise and even morally in many cases, but today has been a breath of fresh air to see so many of them publicly condemn this action. Fair play and credit where credit is due, they could've quite easily slimed their way out of doing so for the sake of a trade deal. Although I do still find the pandering to maintaining the "special relationship" with Trumps USA a bit contradictory to the notion of a Brexit Britain taking its pride back and being "more in control", the treading on egg shells would imply the complete opposite.

There's a lot wrong going on in Britain at the moment, but I certainly wouldn't wanna swap places with America, at least our government isn't completely insane but I suppose Trump is making Bush look good at the moment so that's not necessarily saying a lot. Feel for decent American people having that absolute s***house as their leader.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Stirlingsays 30 Nov 17 10.06pm
Originally posted by wordup Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are, but know absolutely nothing about Britain First. I wonder why. Wear this stance as a badge of honour if you wish, but it's a very telling unintended confession to anyone capable of thought. I haven't claimed any inside knowledge of anyone or anything either. Who cares if you like what I say? I'm exercising the free speech that you apparently love so much when it's you spouting it but appear affronted by when it's others. 'Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are' Ah well....lets have a hard think about that one....must be hard to come up with an answer for that one isn't it. How about I have an interest in antifa and they have been on my news sources for about a year.....Difficult eh. I have an interest in free speech and that's pretty much the reason. I have little interest in far right groups because.....what the feck are they doing? Not much....Just people like your progressive friends obsessing over them. Slagging them off every moment and like you making sneering 'dog whistle' comments about other posters in general tones to have deniability. Britain First, I'm aware of them....that's about it....I've slagged off far right groups on here...When they start killing people on anything like the same scale I'll be hating them just as much...Until then I'll regard them as the wrong way to go about the problem. In the meantime I get to listen to you write absolute drivel about what I or others think. I'm very anti Islamism and argue for action for change on it. I have no problem with the public being informed much more clearly about the problem they have....not lied to and fed BS warm words. You are exercising your free speech and that's fine and I'm feeding back to you that you can shove your half arsed arrogant sneering opinions. They have little merit. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 10.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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30 Nov 17 10.06pm

Originally posted by wordup

'Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are'

Ah well....lets have a hard think about that one....must be hard to come up with an answer for that one isn't it. How about I have an interest in antifa and they have been on my news sources for about a year.....Difficult eh. I have an interest in free speech and that's pretty much the reason.

I have little interest in far right groups because.....what the feck are they doing? Not much....Just people like your progressive friends obsessing over them. Slagging them off every moment and like you making sneering 'dog whistle' comments about other posters in general tones to have deniability.

Britain First, I'm aware of them....that's about it....I've slagged off far right groups on here...When they start killing people on anything like the same scale I'll be hating them just as much...Until then I'll regard them as the wrong way to go about the problem. In the meantime I get to listen to you write absolute drivel about what I or others think.

I'm very anti Islamism and argue for action for change on it. I have no problem with the public being informed much more clearly about the problem they have....not lied to and fed BS warm words.

You are exercising your free speech and that's fine and I'm feeding back to you that you can shove your half arsed arrogant sneering opinions. They have little merit.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 10.08pm)

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Nov 17 10.12pm
Theresa May is virtue signalling over this and should be keeping Trump on side. We need to have a sensible trade agreement post Brexit. The matter could have been dealt with privately through the diplomats. I will never vote for that woman, she was awful as home secretary and again proves it as PM.
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Beckenham 30 Nov 17 10.12pm

Theresa May is virtue signalling over this and should be keeping Trump on side. We need to have a sensible trade agreement post Brexit. The matter could have been dealt with privately through the diplomats. I will never vote for that woman, she was awful as home secretary and again proves it as PM.

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wordup 30 Nov 17 10.14pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays 'Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are' Ah well....lets have a hard think about that one....must be hard to come up with an answer for that one isn't it. How about I have an interest in antifa and they have been on my news sources for about a year.....Difficult eh. I have an interest in free speech and that's pretty much the reason. I have little interest in far right groups because.....what the feck are they doing? Not much....Just people like your progressive friends obsessing over them. Slagging them off every moment and like you making sneering 'dog whistle' comments about other posters in general tones to have deniability. Britain First, I'm aware of them....that's about it....I've slagged off far right groups on here...When they start killing people on anything like the same scale I'll be hating them just as much...Until then I get to listen to you write absolute drivel about what I or others think. I'm very anti Islamism and argue for action for change on it. I have no problem with the public being informed much more clearly about the problem they have....not lied to and fed BS warm words. You are exercising your free speech and that's fine and I'm feeding back to you that you can shove your half arsed arrogant sneering opinions. They have little merit. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 10.07pm) Haha. Not much you care about you mean, which is entirely the point.
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30 Nov 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Yes as I stated, you're well versed in American Antifa and can't stop talking about how terrible they are'

I have little interest in far right groups because.....what the feck are they doing? Not much....Just people like your progressive friends obsessing over them. Slagging them off every moment and like you making sneering 'dog whistle' comments about other posters in general tones to have deniability.

Britain First, I'm aware of them....that's about it....I've slagged off far right groups on here...When they start killing people on anything like the same scale I'll be hating them just as much...Until then I get to listen to you write absolute drivel about what I or others think.

I'm very anti Islamism and argue for action for change on it. I have no problem with the public being informed much more clearly about the problem they have....not lied to and fed BS warm words.

You are exercising your free speech and that's fine and I'm feeding back to you that you can shove your half arsed arrogant sneering opinions. They have little merit.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 10.07pm)

Haha. Not much you care about you mean, which is entirely the point.

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Stirlingsays 30 Nov 17 10.15pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Theresa May is virtue signalling over this and should be keeping Trump on side. We need to have a sensible trade agreement post Brexit. The matter could have been dealt with privately through the diplomats. I will never vote for that woman, she was awful as home secretary and again proves it as PM. Yep, I'll never vote for her.....SJW Tories.....Just about the most stupid thing...the left will never vote for her anyway and a lot of her male base regard her with contempt. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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30 Nov 17 10.15pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Yep, I'll never vote for her.....SJW Tories.....Just about the most stupid thing...the left will never vote for her anyway and a lot of her male base regard her with contempt.

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wordup 30 Nov 17 10.16pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Theresa May is virtue signalling over this and should be keeping Trump on side. We need to have a sensible trade agreement post Brexit. The matter could have been dealt with privately through the diplomats. I will never vote for that woman, she was awful as home secretary and again proves it as PM. You make an interesting point. As a nation we are a bit in the wilderness right now. Trump is a hothead and he was always going to launch at her if she said something about this. The prudent option may have been to simply stay out of it on this occasion.
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30 Nov 17 10.16pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

You make an interesting point. As a nation we are a bit in the wilderness right now. Trump is a hothead and he was always going to launch at her if she said something about this. The prudent option may have been to simply stay out of it on this occasion.

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Mstrobez 30 Nov 17 10.18pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Theresa May is virtue signalling over this and should be keeping Trump on side. We need to have a sensible trade agreement post Brexit. The matter could have been dealt with privately through the diplomats. I will never vote for that woman, she was awful as home secretary and again proves it as PM. I don't even necessarily disagree with this, cos we're gonna need all the trade we can get but it just completely goes against the idea that many Brexiters promoted of us reclaiming sovereignty and our pride, which seemed to be the more "moderate" Brexit voters key arguments. To me it just comes across as desperate. If we were that secure in our self worth we'd feel no way about condemning anything that opposes the general British populations values - regardless of the implications on trade deals. This picture that was painted of the rest of the world begging to trade with us with bare minimum regulations and treaties is a pipe dream. Really does make you wonder what on earth we're doing. We're the Arthur over ere!
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30 Nov 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Theresa May is virtue signalling over this and should be keeping Trump on side. We need to have a sensible trade agreement post Brexit. The matter could have been dealt with privately through the diplomats. I will never vote for that woman, she was awful as home secretary and again proves it as PM.

I don't even necessarily disagree with this, cos we're gonna need all the trade we can get but it just completely goes against the idea that many Brexiters promoted of us reclaiming sovereignty and our pride,
which seemed to be the more "moderate" Brexit voters key arguments.

To me it just comes across as desperate. If we were that secure in our self worth we'd feel no way about condemning anything that opposes the general British populations values - regardless of the implications on trade deals.

This picture that was painted of the rest of the world begging to trade with us with bare minimum regulations and treaties is a pipe dream. Really does make you wonder what on earth we're doing.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Nov 17 10.18pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep, I'll never vote for her.....SJW Tories.....Just about the most stupid thing...the left will never vote for her anyway and a lot of her male base regard her with contempt. Absolutely!
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Beckenham 30 Nov 17 10.18pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, I'll never vote for her.....SJW Tories.....Just about the most stupid thing...the left will never vote for her anyway and a lot of her male base regard her with contempt.

Absolutely!

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Stirlingsays 30 Nov 17 10.21pm
Originally posted by wordup Haha. Not much you care about you mean, which is entirely the point. You think I should consider tiny groups who are a small fraction of the security budget in the country because you think so. All violent groups are a problem.....I'm concerned about the ones who the security chiefs are actually worried about and tax payers are footing the bill for.....not spending time being PC talking up small threats as somehow equal in importance because of the sanctimony of some posters. That's just being a waffle merchant. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 10.23pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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30 Nov 17 10.21pm

Originally posted by wordup

Haha. Not much you care about you mean, which is entirely the point.

You think I should consider tiny groups who are a small fraction of the security budget in the country because you think so.

All violent groups are a problem.....I'm concerned about the ones who the security chiefs are actually worried about and tax payers are footing the bill for.....not spending time being PC talking up small threats as somehow equal in importance because of the sanctimony of some posters.

That's just being a waffle merchant.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Nov 2017 10.23pm)

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 30 Nov 17 10.21pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez I don't even necessarily disagree with this, cos we're gonna need all the trade we can get but it just completely goes against the idea that many Brexiters promoted of us reclaiming sovereignty and our pride, which seemed to be the more "moderate" Brexit voters key arguments. To me it just comes across as desperate. If we were that secure in our self worth we'd feel no way about condemning anything that opposes the general British populations values - regardless of the implications on trade deals. This picture that was painted of the rest of the world begging to trade with us with bare minimum regulations and treaties is a pipe dream. Really does make you wonder what on earth we're doing. I still think we'll be fine, but she should not really criticise our allies! Especially a hot head like Trump who is clearly a special case and while in the middle of negotiations with the EU. May has made a big blunder here in a desperate attempt to curry favour with the British public who dislike her either way and pander to the liberal media. She's the classic career politician who cares about herself and not the interests of the country. Idiot! Edited by Penge Eagle (30 Nov 2017 10.24pm)
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Beckenham 30 Nov 17 10.21pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

This picture that was painted of the rest of the world begging to trade with us with bare minimum regulations and treaties is a pipe dream. Really does make you wonder what on earth we're doing.

I still think we'll be fine, but she should not really criticise our allies! Especially a hot head like Trump who is clearly a special case and while in the middle of negotiations with the EU. May has made a big blunder here in a desperate attempt to curry favour with the British public who dislike her either way and pander to the liberal media. She's the classic career politician who cares about herself and not the interests of the country. Idiot!

Edited by Penge Eagle (30 Nov 2017 10.24pm)

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