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 Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Jun 17 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Nice generalisation. I'm sure becky meant Mandanda 90K a week and barely played a game.
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| kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 24 Jun 17 4.30pm |
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I find it almost impossible to understand that the UK does not require the robust use of sprinklers and standpipes in tall buildings. A fire brigade can't haul ladders the size required for these buildings unless they want vehicles than can move no faster than 10 mph while negotiating streets that are half the width of those in New York. In this day and age a major on-site supply of water, which standpipes provide, is crucial to extinguishing fires in tower type buildings.
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 becky  over the moon 24 Jun 17 8.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Nice generalisation. I've seen him bottle a few hard tackles too!
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Jun 17 8.15am |
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Labour's John McDonnell has claimed victims of the Grenfell Tower fire were "murdered" by "political decisions" in an interview at Glastonbury. As Camden Council is Labour controlled, does this signal yet another split in the People's Party? As he is calling it 'murder', this of course means that the Camden Comrades were premeditated in thier plot to kill their council tenants.
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| kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 26 Jun 17 8.32am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Labour's John McDonnell has claimed victims of the Grenfell Tower fire were "murdered" by "political decisions" in an interview at Glastonbury. As Camden Council is Labour controlled, does this signal yet another split in the People's Party? As he is calling it 'murder', this of course means that the Camden Comrades were premeditated in their plot to kill their council tenants. Grenfell Tower was in Kensington & Chelsea, not Camden. As for John McDonnell, his kind of political posturing does nothing for the victims or the people who have to deal with these disasters, the first responders. It does nothing to explain why successive local and national governments followed fire prevention policies that are not reflective of state of the art technology or anything close to that. It also shows that no one learned anything from the Camberwell fire several years ago and I sincerely doubt the lessons of the Valley Parade fire have been fully taken on board other than wooden structures burn quickly. How many people know the best way to evacuate Selhurst Park from their seat? While the New York fire code is far more stringent than anything in the UK, it is an exception rather than the rule in the US. Having said that, if there were a disaster at one of our major sporting venues I'm couldn't guarantee that they could be evacuated without a significant loss of life. It is also reported quite frequently that tall buildings are often built with serious fire safety deficiencies and some of those who are supposed to enforce the laws are on the take. Is it any wonder that many people are sick and tired of "professional" politicians of any stripe and are turning increasingly to people with little to no experience in running a government but say the things people want to hear? If you think I'm talking about the current occupant of the most chaotic White House administration in history, you would be correct.
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leifandersonshair  Newport 26 Jun 17 8.36am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Labour's John McDonnell has claimed victims of the Grenfell Tower fire were "murdered" by "political decisions" in an interview at Glastonbury. As Camden Council is Labour controlled, does this signal yet another split in the People's Party? As he is calling it 'murder', this of course means that the Camden Comrades were premeditated in thier plot to kill their council tenants. What does Camden Council have to do with the Grenfell fire, in (Tory controlled) Kensington and Chelsea Borough Council?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Jun 17 9.07am |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
What does Camden Council have to do with the Grenfell fire, in (Tory controlled) Kensington and Chelsea Borough Council? OK, obviously got that wrong, but Camden Council evacuated people in the middle of the night because of their premeditated murderous cladding? The point surely is that McDonnell is being idiotic talking about 'murder'. Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Jun 2017 9.09am)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Jun 17 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Labour's John McDonnell has claimed victims of the Grenfell Tower fire were "murdered" by "political decisions" in an interview at Glastonbury. As Camden Council is Labour controlled, does this signal yet another split in the People's Party? As he is calling it 'murder', this of course means that the Camden Comrades were premeditated in thier plot to kill their council tenants. Hyperbole, not just the curse of the right wing I'm afraid. Meat is Murder, Abortion is murder etc.... The only thing that is murder, is murder.
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| Part Time James 26 Jun 17 3.38pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Hyperbole, not just the curse of the right wing I'm afraid. Meat is Murder, Abortion is murder etc.... The only thing that is murder, is murder. And the traffic on the M25.
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| NickinOX Sailing country. 26 Jun 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
And the traffic on the M25.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Jun 17 5.17pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
And the traffic on the M25. That's just parking.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 17 1.27pm |
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Funny enough, a close friend of mine has been brought in to run the forensic recovery of all the victims from the building. And you think your job is grim!
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