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Bill Glazier Flag Mitcham 04 May 17 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Bill Glazier Add Bill Glazier as a friend

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Originally posted by Willo

If we go down of course, which is a distinct possibility, the stadium project will clearly be put on the 'Back burner'.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 May 17 7.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

And Reading FC no?

Waitrose ahead office is near Reading, in Bracknell, which is what I said when I said HQ or manufacturing nearby.

Sponsoring England cricket has a prestige to it, is watched by ABC1 socio-economic groups and the bonus is when you're inside you get prime hospitality and treatment at all England matches every day. Every day!

Sainsburys target market is all socio economic groups and not just a us. A few mentions on sky sports of the radio will have no effect on sales at all.

Waitrose is also a partnership so doesn't have to answer uncomfortable questions over why it has wasted money sponsoring a football team. Sainsburys on the other hand....It is 30% owned by the bid Qatari group but I guess the hire a large city company to manage all of that and dividends etc.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (04 May 2017 7.59pm)

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 17 7.55pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

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Sainsbury profits were down 8.2% last year.

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

The obvious place for Crystal Palace is Crystal Palace.
The national sports centre is a tired old wreck. It could easily carry a 40,000 stadium and has the infrastructure. That's where we should be heading.......home.


That was proposed, but evaporated as a prospect once they gift-wrapped the Olympic stadium to the Spammers.

Also, I believe there was a crowd-control concern over tens of thousands of fans wandering unfettered around the park.

 


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I believe the Park has more planning issues than most because Croydon, Bromley, Lambeth and Southwark all have boundaries with or near the site. I think that's one of the reasons the plan was abandoned.

 

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Originally posted by Ray in Houston


That was proposed, but evaporated as a prospect once they gift-wrapped the Olympic stadium to the Spammers.

Also, I believe there was a crowd-control concern over tens of thousands of fans wandering unfettered around the park.

That may be true but then again Hull's is sort of in a park and the Norwich and Derby grounds are in the middle of retail parks. They seem to manage.

 

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whitehorselane Flag 04 May 17 9.31pm

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Does what division we are in make any odds to ground development?

Think the Arthur Wait could be redeveloped meanwhile?

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 May 17 9.32pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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Originally posted by Direwolf

That may be true but then again Hull's is sort of in a park and the Norwich and Derby grounds are in the middle of retail parks. They seem to manage.

When your's and your neighbours homes are worth £500k minimum, it makes you very, very vocal. Would you like a football club you don't support or care about building a 35,000 stadium 2 minutes walk from you front door? I wouldn't.

Selhurst residents moved next to a football ground. Big difference.

 


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kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 06 May 17 8.54am Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

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I'm confused about who owns which car park. Isn't the car park directly behind the Main Stand, which may still be known as the Executive Car Park, belong to the club? Sainsbury's customers can't park there at any time, or couldn't when I was there in the early nineties. There is also a fence which divides that car park from the Sainsbury's car park which is on Whitehorse Lane. The ECP's entrance is on Holmesdale Road.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 May 17 9.00am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

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Originally posted by kenbarr

I'm confused about who owns which car park. Isn't the car park directly behind the Main Stand, which may still be known as the Executive Car Park, belong to the club? Sainsbury's customers can't park there at any time, or couldn't when I was there in the early nineties. There is also a fence which divides that car park from the Sainsbury's car park which is on Whitehorse Lane. The ECP's entrance is on Holmesdale Road.

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I seem to have a recollection of your good self on Sainsbury's car park duty when you used to be a matchday steward !

I also am not sure of the ownership of these car parks.Parish referred to a "Slither" so perhaps the plans include having to utilise a small part of the current Sainsbury's carpark.Either the plans will need to be revised or an agreement reached with Sainsbury's regarding price.I will have to find out more about this !

 

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Originally posted by kenbarr

I'm confused about who owns which car park. Isn't the car park directly behind the Main Stand, which may still be known as the Executive Car Park, belong to the club? Sainsbury's customers can't park there at any time, or couldn't when I was there in the early nineties. There is also a fence which divides that car park from the Sainsbury's car park which is on Whitehorse Lane. The ECP's entrance is on Holmesdale Road.

By looking at it, I think we must need a small bit of it at the end by the fence to complete a full stand. I could be wrong, but that seems right.

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 06 May 17 9.03am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

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Originally posted by kenbarr

I'm confused about who owns which car park. Isn't the car park directly behind the Main Stand, which may still be known as the Executive Car Park, belong to the club? Sainsbury's customers can't park there at any time, or couldn't when I was there in the early nineties. There is also a fence which divides that car park from the Sainsbury's car park which is on Whitehorse Lane. The ECP's entrance is on Holmesdale Road.

That's an interesting question Ken. When we submitted, and had approved, plans to build a club shop/offices on part of that carpark, there was mention in the documentation of agreement being reached with Sainsbury's for the plans.

I've now found the planning application:

[Link]

2a states "the Crystal Palace car park is leased by Sainsbury's to the football club, and is separate from the Sainsbury's car park".

So Sainsbury's own the whole thing, therefore "sliver" it may be, but it's a sizeable sliver.


Edited by bexleydave (06 May 2017 9.17am)

 


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