More than half of net migration to the UK comes from the EU.More than 1/4 of a million people came to the UK from the EU in the 12 months to Sep 15, the equivelant of a city the size of Newcastle or Plymouth in just a year.

We really need to stop the out of control migration system that means an "open door" to the EU while blocking people who could
contribute to the UK coming from non-EU countries.

We really need to make it easier for some to come, such as scientists and job-creators, and
impossible for others to come, such as convicted criminals.In short, let's take control of our borders.

I'm not questioning the complexity of the issues, I just passed comment on one of the issues and a major one at that.There are other important issues of course - I'm NOT a single issue campaigner !

With regard to immigration, they'll just head to Dublin, cross the border and get the ferry to Scotland.

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But leaving the EU will not change the situation, no-one except Farago believes that (and I don't think he really does either) Most EU countries have free movement of people WITHOUT a passport; the UK doesn't. Therefore we have greater border controls in the UK at the moment.

But quite a few countries outside the EU who wish to trade on preferential terms with the EU have to allow free movement of people to gain these terms. Why would the EU not require the same from the UK?

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But wouldn't that bring closer the glorious revolution and a socialist utopia?

Ok here goes..

67,000 Europeans came here without an immediate job to go to out of the hundreds of thousands in one recent year according to a report a few months back. How many got employment within a month or two i do not know but the figures tell us the vast majority are not a burden but do, in fact, work, pay taxes and help the UK generally.

But, more importantly and in relation, the population of the UK is going to pass 70million over the next twenty years whether we are 'in' or 'out'. Loads of Plymouths. Sustainabilty is a real and presently serious issue but it something which goes beyond a Brexit. We need more hospitals but I keep seeing smaller ones being closed down.

Totally agree with you re: bail outs. Giving the same credit rating to lower end economies and without due diligence was beneficial to Goldman Sachs but stupidly irresponsible, and possibly corrupt, by the EU suits. Hopefully, lessons will have been learned but I am not holding my breath. Beyond that it is important for the Balkan states to come aboard as, let's face it, a lot of world trouble has emanated from that lot. Common goals and economic interests will dilute the chances of any conflict and that will be good for the whole of Europe going into the future.

The money we give to the EU we get back and more through the rebate and cheaper goods. It is estimated that for each £1 a UK family puts toward the EU budget they get £3 back via lower household bills because of our membership.

The impact of the vast majority of laws/directives from the EU is there but something we don't really think about. Pissy little stuff from food labelling to getting refunds for late aircraft to the more important ones like cleaner rivers, seas and beaches.

The ones that get up peoples noses are a tiny minority. Their law is an ass sometimes but so is UK law and we don't threaten to leave our system and set up an entirely new judicial way because some acts are passed which are reprehensible: I'm looking at you 'Poll Tax'. We lobby from within for change. As we should with the EU. It may take a long time but pressure counts when backed by the masses and the right people.

EU law itself is interpreted by the Court of Justice of the European Union. This is completely separate from the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, which interprets the European Convention on Human Rights.

We can't ignore EU legislation but we can certainly challenge it. If there are doubts about the EU's legitimacy for making a particular piece of legislation because it does not meet a Treaty objective then national courts can suspend the domestic measures which implement it and an amendment will be made by an Act of Parliament.

End of Part One.

p.s btw Don't forget it was the Tories in the 70's, 80's and 90's that kept signing us up to this stoopid Euro thing

Edited by Kermit8 (15 Apr 2016 10.30am)

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