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 Mapletree  Croydon 15 Sep 15 1.01pm |
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I think it's definitely an issue most of the general public are relatively unaware of. Be it the treatment of meat and dairy farmers by the supermarkets who pay them incredibly poorly and play them off against each other to the barbaric treatment of animals: if Corbyn is to win the election there will clearly have to be a fairly large attitude change in the electorate, and maybe this will be one of the areas in which it will happen. In terms of the farmers, from what I have read (I'm a vegan so take a fairly keen interest in the subject) I highly doubt that they would be concerned if the ethics of animal farming are improved - they are far more concerned about being paid better and being provided with greater job security. Actually in America at the moment in the onrunning dispute between farmers and chicken companies, a common concern raised by the farmers is being forced in to treating animals so unimaginably horribly. ----------------------------------- What's worse, a vegan or Prescott at the helm? Let's be honest, a salad dodger has to be worse for the farmers. According to Twitter and Facebook, whether or not there is any truth in it, Vegetarian is an ancient derogatory term for a gormless idiot who couldn't fish, hunt or ride.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 15 Sep 15 1.18pm |
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Quote Sedlescombe at 15 Sep 2015 12.56pm
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My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary. A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs. Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man. Ikea cabinet.
In itself not necessarily an issue but if you are a dairy / beef / poultry farmer you'll be paying close attention to what she does. There is an obvious conflict between someone who is vegan and the majority of farmers.
Edited by Sedlescombe (15 Sep 2015 12.57pm) It is ok for Diane Abbott to do it I presume?
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Sep 15 1.23pm |
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Quote serial thriller at 15 Sep 2015 9.56am
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My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary. A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs. Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man. Ikea cabinet.
In itself not necessarily an issue but if you are a dairy / beef / poultry farmer you'll be paying close attention to what she does. There is an obvious conflict between someone who is vegan and the majority of farmers.
Indeed but that doesn't take away the fact that there is a significant conflict of interest there. If she can set aside her personal beliefs then fair play. I am not sure that the general public give a toss about animal husbandry though. Better quality of life = more expensive produce.
In terms of the farmers, from what I have read (I'm a vegan so take a fairly keen interest in the subject) I highly doubt that they would be concerned if the ethics of animal farming are improved - they are far more concerned about being paid better and being provided with greater job security. Actually in America at the moment in the onrunning dispute between farmers and chicken companies, a common concern raised by the farmers is being forced in to treating animals so unimaginably horribly. ....so what are your thoughts on Halal Products?
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 15 Sep 15 1.26pm |
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Quote Sedlescombe at 15 Sep 2015 12.56pm
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The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. |
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 15 Sep 15 1.34pm |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 15 Sep 2015 1.18pm
Quote Sedlescombe at 15 Sep 2015 12.56pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 15 Sep 2015 8.18am
Y Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 11.25pm
Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary. A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs. Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man. Ikea cabinet.
In itself not necessarily an issue but if you are a dairy / beef / poultry farmer you'll be paying close attention to what she does. There is an obvious conflict between someone who is vegan and the majority of farmers.
Edited by Sedlescombe (15 Sep 2015 12.57pm) It is ok for Diane Abbott to do it I presume?
No surprise that she jumped at the chance of being on Corbyns team of marxists, she would support any cause that got her moon head in the nationals. c***.
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| Alex55 SM1 15 Sep 15 1.34pm |
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I welcome Corbyn's leadership because now at least I can tell the difference between the parties. If he ca impact positively on the NHS and do something for housing and rents. If too he can give working people more job security he will be reversing a tide that's 30 yrs old. So good luck there is so much to be done.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 15 Sep 15 1.38pm |
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Quote Sedlescombe at 15 Sep 2015 12.56pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 15 Sep 2015 8.18am
Y Quote serial thriller at 14 Sep 2015 11.25pm
Quote johnfirewall at 14 Sep 2015 7.51pm
My local MP who turned up to the hospital to protest once is now health secretary. A vegan is in charge of food and rural affairs. Emily Thornbury was tipped for a post. Surprised she wasn't the new shadow minister for construction after seeing a white van man. Ikea cabinet.
In itself not necessarily an issue but if you are a dairy / beef / poultry farmer you'll be paying close attention to what she does. There is an obvious conflict between someone who is vegan and the majority of farmers.
Edited by Sedlescombe (15 Sep 2015 12.57pm) Education no not necessarily, that is a choice based on his ability to pay. Just because you can afford to send your child to public school it doesn't mean that you have an issue with comprehensives. If the book is as you say then yes probably it is. However, I do find it funny that the left seem to resent wealthy people paying for education / health care which surely frees up resources for others?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Sep 15 1.48pm |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 15 Sep 2015 1.38pm
Absolutely ! Taking health as an example anybody who chooses to avail of private healthcare is not burdening the NHS and that person not only pays national taxes (Which funds the NHS the person is not using) but pays into a private healthcare scheme.
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| The White Horse 15 Sep 15 1.48pm |
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The gender balance of the cabinet stuff is hilarious: "There are 16 women in the cabinet and only 15 men, praise be to Jeremy" "How many women are allowed to vote in cabinet?" "Two thirds" "How many men are?" "Three quarters" "Hang on..."
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| Stuk Top half 15 Sep 15 2.00pm |
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Quote The White Horse at 15 Sep 2015 1.48pm
The gender balance of the cabinet stuff is hilarious: "There are 16 women in the cabinet and only 15 men, praise be to Jeremy" "How many women are allowed to vote in cabinet?" "Two thirds" "How many men are?" "Three quarters" "Hang on..."
I've no idea what your point was though.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 15 Sep 15 2.06pm |
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Enough of all this guff...the ONLY question is did he appoint Gloria Di Piero or not? That would almost certainly sway my vote!
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| The White Horse 15 Sep 15 2.56pm |
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Quote Stuk at 15 Sep 2015 2.00pm
Quote The White Horse at 15 Sep 2015 1.48pm
The gender balance of the cabinet stuff is hilarious: "There are 16 women in the cabinet and only 15 men, praise be to Jeremy" "How many women are allowed to vote in cabinet?" "Two thirds" "How many men are?" "Three quarters" "Hang on..."
I've no idea what your point was though. I've made up the figures, which was lazy. My point is that when the shadow cabinet actually votes on stuff, it's a majority of men. I think it's 12 men and 10 women who actually make the decisions, so that'll be 80% of men have a vote, but 62.5% of women do. And lets be honest, the decisions will actually be made by the leader, the deputy and the shadow chancellor.
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