Read that tweet thread I posted. The behavioural scientists in government appear to be the problem, the media are running with it and the heads of government are too weak to grab everyone by the scruff of the neck and tell them to pull themselves together. I’d prefer it if Gove took over today. Johnson isn’t cut out for a crisis. He would’ve been good for ambitious and positive policies in normal times but he’s beaten in this.

COYP

Can you justify those claims as I cannot?

Or did you just invent them as they suit your narrative?

C19 has no known effective treatment or yet available vaccine. Unless it's spread is interrupted by us taking the extreme measures we have the consequences could well have been catastrophic and the economic impact even more distrous than it has been.

The know it alls who do nothing but complain aren't the ones actually having to take these life or death decisions. It's easy to be a key board warrior with all the theoretical answers. It isn't so easy actually taking the responsibility, often with information that is constantly changing, and then being in the glare of hindsight.

We just need to do all we can within our own orbits. Stay safe, keep others safe and keep the economy going as best we can. There is no other way.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Mild COVID-19 cases can produce strong T cell response - [Link]

A positive study detailing how Mild cases of coronavirus "can trigger robust memory T cell responses, even in the absence of detectable virus-specific antibody responses".

NYCs continued low numbers of late may be worth keeping an eye on, on account that it was so badly impacted that there could feasibly be much wider immunity than is actually detectable via antibody tests. This would be good new across the board.

Nothing new and the numbers needed for herd immunity are nothing like 70% and could be near 20%. Sure I’ve said this to you before and you haven’t liked it.

COYP

I've never even offered a specific percentage at which there would or wouldn't be herd immunity let alone 'not liked' some arbitrary percentage someone proposed. It's not something that is known.

Secondly, you've again managed to take what's a positive, reasonable message by someone not even directed towards you and find some way to have a pointless, self preening 'told you so' or 'I already knew that' pop. It's a very recent study that I felt might be of interest to people, it doesn't need to be run by you first. Stop sucking yourself off for five minutes.

Edited by BlueJay (19 Aug 2020 9.06am)

Agree with Tony Blair. Governemtnes measures are too stringent and testing isn't being pushed enough.

Jersey tests requires all visitors to test either 72hours before arrival, or on arrival. You have to email 48 hours before arrival to confirm where you are staying and to give your contact details. They have 9 activite cases, all asymptimatic visitors, currenly locked into the Raddison hotel for two weeks at the governments expense. The entire population's been testest, you need to complete track and trace using QR codes prior to entering any bar.

Entering into the UK, you have to do nothing. Our test centres are empty. If a town is put on lockdown, we should be blitzing the entire town with tests and don't let people out until tests come back negative.

If anyone is not working from home, they should have to do a test once a month.

Anyone booking a hotel, internal flight or similar should have to do a test prior to arrival.

Anyone entering the UK can get tested on a flight or the boat over here. It takes 5 minites to do.

We've got the capacity for testing, we just need to force people to go.