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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 Aug 20 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

A few reasons. One being that deaths almost always occur weeks after someone tests positive and is a case. There is always a significant lag.

But yes also more along the lines of your comment, half of the homes have already been wiped and other people in vulnerable or elderly groups are making decisions that ensure their safety and so hopefully the death toll will remain low.

We see in places like New York that was hit really badly that the number of cases so far appears to be very stable for now. Admittedly there are still certain restrictions, but the whole 'the second spike will be worse than the first' thing thing is taken as fact but we really don't know either way. Fingers crossed that it just isn't.

Edited by BlueJay (17 Aug 2020 1.39pm)

That was claimed by the lockdown happy hippies since the riots. Still nothing. Deaths falling. Young people catch it, it’s not getting through to vulnerable people or the strains are weaker.

Look, we might have an issue when people are indoors at home most of the time later this year. It’ll all depend on who people have round in their house or get close to when speaking or anything else, or probably more importantly having that close social interaction with their vulnerable relatives after having Prosecco with Jenny & Johnny last week.

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 20 6.43pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That was claimed by the lockdown happy hippies since the riots. Still nothing. Deaths falling. Young people catch it, it’s not getting through to vulnerable people or the strains are weaker.

Look, we might have an issue when people are indoors at home most of the time later this year. It’ll all depend on who people have round in their house or get close to when speaking or anything else, or probably more importantly having that close social interaction with their vulnerable relatives after having Prosecco with Jenny & Johnny last week.

Thanks for that. As I say deaths typically come a couple of weeks after they're a case - which they very obviously do and that the future death numbers may not be high anyway, due to it already working its way through OAP homes and due to sensible measures by those at risk. You don't need to hunt for ways to disagree when there is little disagreement.

As for the graph, that's not really related to what I said. Not only did those events not raise the death count, they didn't cause an uptick in the positive tests case count either, and so they're not very well going to lead to a tonne of deaths. Age, vulnerability and setting factor into those outcomes too I'm sure you agree. We're not really disagreeing in any substantive way..... so let's leave it at that.


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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 20 6.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Thanks. Done!

Glad to hear it. Somebody has to do it

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Aug 20 6.54pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

100k volunteers so far.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 20 6.55pm

Originally posted by cryrst

100k volunteers so far.

Surprised they need more really, but it does look like there are a few different studies. I can both see why people would want to opt in, or give it a miss at this stage . Fingers crossed for a positive outcome.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Aug 20 6.57pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

A few reasons. One being that deaths almost always occur weeks after someone tests positive and is a case. There is always a significant lag.

But yes also more along the lines of your comment, half of the homes have already been wiped and other people in vulnerable or elderly groups are making decisions that ensure their safety and so hopefully the death toll will remain low.

We see in places like New York that was hit really badly that the number of cases so far appears to be very stable for now. Admittedly there are still certain restrictions, but the whole 'the second spike will be worse than the first' thing thing is taken as fact but we really don't know either way. Fingers crossed that it just isn't.

Edited by BlueJay (17 Aug 2020 1.39pm)

Not fact just only have one compatible situation.
50% chance of it going south.
That's high enough to be wary I reckon.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 20 7.00pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Not fact just only have one compatible situation.
50% chance of it going south.
That's high enough to be wary I reckon.

I agree. I was looking to the most positive outcome really in terms of the various spike perspectives.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 20 7.50pm

[Link] - ‘Groundbreaking’ Coronavirus saliva test gets FDA approval

A stateside development. Simplified saliva test, very basic for labs to get results fast as there's fewer steps needed and less specialist equipment. Results in three hours as opposed to several days. Could no doubt be a god send in certain settings and scenarios.

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BlueJay Flag UK 17 Aug 20 10.56pm

Herman Cain managed to pass the baton on before he pegged it I see.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Aug 20 2.21am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Of course it's serious, but to shut down the world economy is utter madness. You actually have more chance of catching Aids or dying from a mosquito bite.
Open up & lets move on.

 


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