The French electricity provider?

Them too!!
They supply our services; robbing b@stards!

I am too Stirling, but they are just my opinions which I do not cling to dearly nor do I regard them as fact. It's more of a concern which, with emotion, can descend into a delusional and irrational forecast which deviates from reality. I speak only for myself there and again when I say I consider it unhealthy.

I am concerned with the political landscape however as, given my heritage, race holds little weight for me. It's culture that concerns me and we live in a further divided and volatile one.

Everything within the landscape seems to be laser focussed upon convincing people to form tribes, already from a vast array of backgrounds, which inevitably keep them occupied warring with one another whilst a tiny percentage reap the financial and other rewards. People are forever being convinced that the individual is the be all and end all which is seeing the erosion of societal identity. I consider myself English, always have without any quiver, but some may argue I am not. I wouldn't care for their opinion of course, it's none of my business, but those who have more nationalistic views of 'English', living in England, I wouldn't dare to criticise. That's their right.

I'm not rich to any degree it's worth shouting about, however I have no financial concerns for myself and my family, put it that way. I do live in this country however and very much intend to continue doing so. I therefore want the country to function as best possible for myself and my family, for generations to come, as well as others who live here with me.

When kids are being murdered on the street and the concern is with a tiny amateur movement labelled 'far right', you know something has to be wrong and we're deviating from reality. I saw a specialist doctor at King's today who's Sri Lankan but born here, I do every 6 months. I hold some concerns with him as he did his usual today where given we see each other somewhat frequently, and we're in a similar position in life, the conversation leans more toward general chit chat than it does anything to do with my medical status! He has two young girls and shared similar sentiments to me, all of concern for the direction of travel and little faith in that changing.

Shocking joke.

I am glad to know you don’t support the riots because that wasn’t clear from previous posts. You have though defended those who took part.

My own views are very far from far left or extremist. I am a centralist through and through. If it were people of the far left rioting after children had been murdered they would get exactly the same criticism. It wasn’t though. It was the far right as it almost always is in these kind of circumstances.

You have chosen a very selective quote from the in depth analysis of the origins of the violence which does not represent its conclusions at all. It is more of a precautionary caveat to what follows.

I am angry with these people for behaving in this way at this time and wish more would distance themselves, as you now seem to be.

Regarding the idea that we should demand more from our politicians in response it is this which, of itself, appeared to justify those behaving in this way.

Everyone would like there to be something that could be done. Demanding that it is, is to assume it’s possible, and it’s my regrettable conclusion that it isn’t.

Blaming immigration is what these right wing nut jobs do. I hope you don’t. Criminals and the mentally ill exist, in every community and have always done so. Politicians can only do what’s possible. Changing characters isn’t possible. Watching everybody all the time isn’t possible.

No parent should face these kinds of things, but the reality is that some will. All we as a society can do is minimise the risks, make the environment as safe as possible and if, very rarely, disaster strikes ensure we offer as much support as possible. Which includes leaving them in peace to grieve.

You won’t hear anything from politicians on this because there is nothing they can say, and to expect it is totally unrealistic. All it does is increase discontent and pressure when that’s the last thing the victims need.

I have several interests in my life and often multi task so can quickly respond.

Off to the vets now, as my dog needs some care.

This thread is like being in assembly with a new headmaster who thinks people are taking notice of everything he says.