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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Jan 24 7.27am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This determination to see American politics as a Manichean battle is leading to some strange conclusions.

Thanks, I had not heard that expression so I looked it up.

It's not just Americans, as a Tory I can see the corruption, lies and failures in my own party and yet so many on the left will not even acknowledge that Labour also has it's faults. Labour good Tory evil is very naive.

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 28 Jan 24 7.49am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There was incontrovertible condemnation of Hamas by the BBC when it entered Israel, killed so many innocents and took hostages. Less now, because that’s not where the current focus is.

still refusing to refer to Hamas as terrorists though?

 

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The Dolphin Flag 28 Jan 24 8.15am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The Democrats and their supporters have lined all this crap up.....it's so transparent that only the thick can't see it or the TDS who just don't care.

These weirdos act like Trump is the devil himself. They don't care what they get him on. They will lie, invent and try any means they think they can get away with.

You literally have Maxwell convicted and in jail for being a sex trafficker on Epstein island.....but no one convicted for having sex with minors or the trafficked on that island.

Yet here are the Democrats billing Trump for eighty million dollars for supposed hurt feelings of some women on the make.....from a court in a deeply blue state.

If any independents out there are stupid enough to vote Biden based on that stuff they deserve all that voting Democrat gets them.

From all accounts the plan they have chosen seems to be blowing up in their face but whatever. They will pull anything because they fear the retribution.

Not that it matters that much who wins as the other side won't accept the result.....what's coming is inevitable and it's just a question of how America splits and when.

I agree 100%.
Trump is not a nice man but the Democrat bombardment is embarrassing in my eyes.
It is so clear what is going on - "don't let Trump into the fight because they know he will destroy Biden".
Instead of finding a decent opponent for him they work this way instead.
What is really worrying for me is what is surely going on behind the scenes in their Government because who in their right mind would put Biden forward to fight another election and be the President of there wasn't an ulterior motive.
Forget politics - the man is unwell and past it - and should not be allowed to run a bath let alone a Country.
Behind the scenes - they must need him there so that unpleasant and (more) corrupt forces than Trump can destroy the Country.
Scary stuff.

Edited by The Dolphin (29 Jan 2024 9.23am)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 28 Jan 24 8.55am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I agree 100%.
Trump is not a nice man but the Democrat bombardment is embarrassing in my eyes.
It is so clear what is going on - "don't let Trump into the right because they know he will destroy Biden".
Instead of finding a decent opponent for him they work this way instead.
What is really worrying for me is what is surely going on behind the scenes in their Government because who in their right mind would put Biden forward to fight another election and be the President of there wasn't an ulterior motive.
Forget politics - the man is unwell and past it - and should not be allowed to run a bath let alone a Country.
Behind the scenes - they must need him there so that unpleasant and (more) corrupt forces than Trump can destroy the Country.
Scary stuff.

I tip my hat sir and fully agree.

Biden seems to want to stand....the argument can be made that he thinks the Democrats can use their control of media, both social and corporate and Trump convictions to win. However, I think he's just suffering from an old man's hubris and unwillingness to exit the stage.

I've heard about some talk of Michelle Obama in May but that seems unlikely....but hey never say never.

 


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becky Flag over the moon 28 Jan 24 9.09am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

still refusing to refer to Hamas as terrorists though?

It's a strange thing.... on the BBC News every time they mention Hamas for the first time, it is always followed by the statement "which has been declared a terrorist organization by the Government"

I've always found this rather odd in a 'covering our backsides' sort of way....

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

still refusing to refer to Hamas as terrorists though?

The BBC explained their reasons for that months ago. They quote what others, like the government, say but don’t attribute categories themselves in their own voice as part of the strict requirements placed on them to always stay neutral.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

The Democrats aren’t “billing” Trump for anything!

The nonsensical idea that courts and juries don’t decide fines but politicians do is simply propaganda spread by Trump and his supporters.

Stop swallowing this nonsense being spoon fed to you by conspiracy theorists.

The purpose of the fine is to try to stop Trump’s outrageous disregard for the law. He is solely responsible for that.

We will have to see if he is actually able to pay it, or if his supposed wealth is another lie and just a bunch of castles build on sand.

 


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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 28 Jan 24 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

Conspiracy theories, misinformation propaganda!, government overreach!! Is that a left wing or find wing tactic??

I guess it depends on what the media feeds us? I truly do not know what the political truth is these days!

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 28 Jan 24 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Conspiracy theories, misinformation propaganda!, government overreach!! Is that a left wing or find wing tactic??

I guess it depends on what the media feeds us? I truly do not know what the political truth is these days!

I think it's partly the media but also a more general reaction in many cases to being categorised as uneducated and easily led or of being some variety of -ist. What reaction was Hilary Clinton expecting from her "Basket of deplorables" comment? Presumably millions of people to agree to sort their life out, snap out of it and vote for her.
This superior condescending attitude was, and has been, repeatedly displayed over Trump, Johnson and Brexit and has backfired quite spectacularly each time but it still goes on.

 

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eaglesdare Flag 28 Jan 24 5.52pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The BBC explained their reasons for that months ago. They quote what others, like the government, say but don’t attribute categories themselves in their own voice as part of the strict requirements placed on them to always stay neutral.

The BBC neutral? Lol only when it suits them they are neutral.

Imagine not calling the Taliban or bin laden terrorists....

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Conspiracy theories, misinformation propaganda!, government overreach!! Is that a left wing or find wing tactic??

I guess it depends on what the media feeds us? I truly do not know what the political truth is these days!

The conspiracy theories, misinformation and propaganda originate these days from the unregulated “alternative” media and are then given oxygen via the internet. I am sure some on the left are guilty of it but by far the most is from the right.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 28 Jan 24 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The guy who pushes conspiracy theories wants to warn about others.

Some clowns don't wear make up.

 


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