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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jan 17 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

I do have a modicum of sympathy with Bernie Grant on this issue.

However, we must remember the death of PC Blakelock was unforgivable.

The issue is that being black, and particularly young and black, in London in the 1970's was very different to today. It is no wonder that pressure built up from lack of opportunity and there was significant institutional racism at the time.

It would have been wrong of Bernie not to acknowledge this, given that he was the MP for these constituents at the time.

His barking mad politics are a different matter.


I agree with you on this but regardless of "race" issues at the time, he should have condemned the violence for the sake of law and order.
This also demonstrates how easy it is to accused of prejudice when championing one demographic. Grant reasonably felt a need to defend and represent the black population of Brixton. We usually only hear about prejudice by white people of course.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 27 Jan 17 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


I agree with you on this but regardless of "race" issues at the time, he should have condemned the violence for the sake of law and order.
This also demonstrates how easy it is to accused of prejudice when championing one demographic. Grant reasonably felt a need to defend and represent the black population of Brixton. We usually only hear about prejudice by white people of course.

The day before the riot there was the trigger when the police had aggressively invaded Cynthia Jarrett's flat and she was alone and died in the commotion then later Bernie set out his stall by slamming The Met and their way of doing things.

He was never going to condemn the riot but I would hope he condemned the murder and if he didn't then that was plainly contemptible.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jan 17 8.23pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

The day before the riot there was the trigger when the police had aggressively invaded Cynthia Jarrett's flat and she was alone and died in the commotion then later Bernie set out his stall by slamming The Met and their way of doing things.

He was never going to condemn the riot but I would hope he condemned the murder and if he didn't then that was plainly contemptible.

As a politician he should have. He could stand up for black rights and condemn police procedure without seeming to support rioting. This is where I lose sympathy. Injustice happens every day but people don't riot over it.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Jan 17 9.25pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

As a politician he should have. He could stand up for black rights and condemn police procedure without seeming to support rioting. This is where I lose sympathy. Injustice happens every day but people don't riot over it.

They do in the end if it keeps happening to the same group of people.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jan 17 9.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

They do in the end if it keeps happening to the same group of people.

If you say so. Most rioting I have seen recently in the name of justice mostly consists of looting shops and wanton destruction but I'm sure that was all justifiable too.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 27 Jan 17 10.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If you say so. Most rioting I have seen recently in the name of justice mostly consists of looting shops and wanton destruction but I'm sure that was all justifiable too.

Nick's a great champion of smashing windows and damaging cars [source: his postings] or are we taking him out of context?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Jan 17 11.37pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Nick's a great champion of smashing windows and damaging cars [source: his postings] or are we taking him out of context?

Had there not been the poll tax riots, would we still have the poll tax?

 

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.TUX. Flag 28 Jan 17 5.38am

Meanwhile, in other European news, having discontinued its production of EUR500 banknotes, it appears Europe is charging towards the utopian dream of a cashless society. Just days after Davos' elites discussed why the world needs to "get rid of currency," the European Commission has introduced a proposal enforcing "restrictions on payments in cash."
With many all calling for the end of cash - because only terrorists and drug-dealers need cash (nothing at all to do with totalitarian control over a nation's wealth) - it's no surprise that this proposal from the European Commission (sanctuary of statism) would appear...

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Jan 17 10.14am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

In some European countries this is already in force if you make a cash payment of 15,000 euros or more you need to have identification and the transaction is recorded.

The EUR500 was called the 'bin laden' note countries are using any weapon they have in the fight against terrorism.

 

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Hoof Hearted 28 Jan 17 10.42am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Nick's a great champion of smashing windows and damaging cars [source: his postings] or are we taking him out of context?

LOL

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Jan 17 11.02am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

LOL

As a double glazing salesman I endorse his views whole heartedly

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Jan 17 11.08am

Originally posted by steeleye20

As a double glazing salesman I endorse his views whole heartedly

You are Ted Moult and I claim my £5

 

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