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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 27 Jan 17 12.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
BTW - I have not any source for that insightful quote either. OK one more. Its because it is the second time in the last couple of weeks someone has had a pop at me for a comment - in that case accusing me of calling them a racist - which when I challenged them offline got the response that oh no it was someone else they were really referring to. Hold me accountable for what I say not anyone else. Though you wont need to for a while
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Hoof Hearted 27 Jan 17 12.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
OK one more. Its because it is the second time in the last couple of weeks someone has had a pop at me for a comment - in that case accusing me of calling them a racist - which when I challenged them offline got the response that oh no it was someone else they were really referring to. Hold me accountable for what I say not anyone else. Though you wont need to for a while See my PM to you.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jan 17 12.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
OK one more. Its because it is the second time in the last couple of weeks someone has had a pop at me for a comment - in that case accusing me of calling them a racist - which when I challenged them offline got the response that oh no it was someone else they were really referring to. Hold me accountable for what I say not anyone else. Though you wont need to for a while Actually Sedlescombe, you just inferred that the comment was about you when it wasn't.
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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jan 17 12.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Sounds a very reasonable and sensible stance to take npn. I'm sure most Brexit supporters would share your views and proposed "rules". If you come to UK from the EU you must have an employer or find an employer within 3 months that does not conflict with the principle of free movement.
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paperhat croydon 27 Jan 17 12.35pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If you come to UK from the EU you must have an employer or find an employer within 3 months that does not conflict with the principle of free movement. and yet if I want to go and live in Australia, I need that before i go (or to the effect of).
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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jan 17 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by paperhat
and yet if I want to go and live in Australia, I need that before i go (or to the effect of). That is because you have to comply with Australian law.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jan 17 12.40pm | |
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Lumping everyone of a different political persuasion into clichéd groups who all think the same and using clichéd insults that originate from opinion pieces in the media (usually based around lies, half truths and out of context quotes) shows a real lack of imagination and thought in my view. Seems to becoming more prevalent in my opinion.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jan 17 12.44pm | |
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Seems the UK is looking abroad to bring pesky foreigners in who might be a bit different to us to fill the gaps in teaching brought about by the recruitment and retention crisis in teaching. Google it if you don't believe me.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Jan 17 1.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
On the out of context point - at least the one I was referring to - the words that were attributed to Grant were correct but taking the words out before the ones quoted in the press change the meaning and that was the intention of the journalist so you cant completely dismiss "the context defence" but every situation is different and we are all culpable for giving a free pass to the people we agree with and all over situations where people we don't like say something we object to. I gave the full quote of what Grant said: Do you think using the words "The youths around here believe" justifies his tacit support of a policeman being hacked to death and attempts being made to severe and put his head on a pole? How is what he said being put out of context? He was commenting on a mob rioting and killing - what other context could he have meant?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jan 17 1.30pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I gave the full quote of what Grant said: Do you think using the words "The youths around here believe" justifies his tacit support of a policeman being hacked to death and attempts being made to severe and put his head on a pole? How is what he said being put out of context? He was commenting on a mob rioting and killing - what other context could he have meant? How the bloody hell can you take that quote and say he tacitly supported murder?
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jan 17 1.34pm | |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
I love the way those on the right who have immigrant-related phobias suggest their extremities are middle ground common sense (not a new conceit in this context I'm afraid)...more like uncommon lack of sense perhaps! Its a view of the centre in the same way that a goalkeeper stands at the centre rather than at an extremity of the pitch Though there are times of course when the 'common sense' of the extreme right has indeed become mainstream thought in a country or on a continent..as we know to our cost during the last century Your rhetoric on this subject is always the same and totally misses the practical issues. You can't debate with the closed minded.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Jan 17 1.36pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How the bloody hell can you take that quote and say he tacitly supported murder? Because he did not condemn the murder or criticise the rioters in any way - he revelled in the police getting a "bloody good hiding".
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