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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jul 24 10.08am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Getting past Holland will be a challenge but if we do and our goal threat can be realised we should be able to match them. I was a bit surprised to see Deschamps is France's longest serving manager. Not that hasn't done well but 12 years is a long time for the French to have anyone in charge - Zidane is waiting in the wings though. He's really cracked tournament football and is almost certainly an inspiration of Southgate's - the way they approach tournaments is incredibly similar. Key difference is that Deschamps is bolder in his decision making, possibly because he feels more empowered to be given his successes - he dropped Griezmann yesterday which would be equivalent to us dropping someone like Foden, which you could never see Southgate doing. He made 3 subs on 60 mins yesterday including taking off Kante for the much more offensive Griezmann. I appreciate it didn't affect the result yesterday, but I thought France created enough to at least force a draw - I wish Southgate could be as aggressive in his decision making when things aren't working.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Getting past Holland will be a challenge but if we do and our goal threat can be realised we should be able to match them.
I was a bit surprised to see Deschamps is France's longest serving manager. Not that hasn't done well but 12 years is a long time for the French to have anyone in charge - Zidane is waiting in the wings though.

He's really cracked tournament football and is almost certainly an inspiration of Southgate's - the way they approach tournaments is incredibly similar.

Key difference is that Deschamps is bolder in his decision making, possibly because he feels more empowered to be given his successes - he dropped Griezmann yesterday which would be equivalent to us dropping someone like Foden, which you could never see Southgate doing.

He made 3 subs on 60 mins yesterday including taking off Kante for the much more offensive Griezmann.

I appreciate it didn't affect the result yesterday, but I thought France created enough to at least force a draw - I wish Southgate could be as aggressive in his decision making when things aren't working.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 10 Jul 24 10.11am
Originally posted by Elpis That kid reminds me so much of Olise. Stop him coming inside and he is just a very good player instead of a brilliant one . Im sure Marc will have him sussed in the Final Yep, I thought the same thing Elpis. Very similar style and movement. Let's buy him! Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by Elpis

That kid reminds me so much of Olise. Stop him coming inside and he is just a very good player instead of a brilliant one . Im sure Marc will have him sussed in the Final

Yep, I thought the same thing Elpis. Very similar style and movement. Let's buy him!

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Jul 24 10.22am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow It could be proved disastrously wrong tonight but I feel like both Holland & Spain are good matches for us, at least in theory! It's obviously dependent on us executing a game plan and performing well, which is far from guaranteed given how we've played so far, but in theory I like the match ups. We will let them dominate possession, we can sit in shape and not concede many chances, and then look to exploit both opposition's defensive frailties as they commit men forward. As I said above, as good as Spain were last night, France probably had the better chances and just needed to be a bit more clinical in the final third to get a result. Yep. I can agree with all of that. We'll find out soon enough! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Jul 24 10.22am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

It could be proved disastrously wrong tonight but I feel like both Holland & Spain are good matches for us, at least in theory!

It's obviously dependent on us executing a game plan and performing well, which is far from guaranteed given how we've played so far, but in theory I like the match ups.

We will let them dominate possession, we can sit in shape and not concede many chances, and then look to exploit both opposition's defensive frailties as they commit men forward.

As I said above, as good as Spain were last night, France probably had the better chances and just needed to be a bit more clinical in the final third to get a result.

Yep. I can agree with all of that. We'll find out soon enough!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Jul 24 10.49am
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jul 24 10.54am
Originally posted by ASCPFC [Link] Crazy It's like the start of a Disney movie!
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Elpis In a pub 10 Jul 24 11.03am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Apart from his hat trick in the World Cup Final. Two penalties in that . He had a poor game against a poor Argentina side and only really turned up after the first pen on 80 minutes . fair enough a great strike for the second then another pen in extra time . He didn't have a great world cup ,goals against Denmark and Australia in the group and Poland rnd 16 are warm up matches .When it matters in the quarters v us and in the semi v Morocco he bottled it ,same as he bottled it last night .
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In a pub 10 Jul 24 11.03am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Apart from his hat trick in the World Cup Final.

Two penalties in that . He had a poor game against a poor Argentina side and only really turned up after the first pen on 80 minutes . fair enough a great strike for the second then another pen in extra time .

He didn't have a great world cup ,goals against Denmark and Australia in the group and Poland rnd 16 are warm up matches .When it matters in the quarters v us and in the semi v Morocco he bottled it ,same as he bottled it last night .

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dreamwaverider London 10 Jul 24 11.11am
Originally posted by Elpis That kid reminds me so much of Olise .Stop him coming inside and he is just a very good player instead of a brilliant one . Im sure Marc will have him sussed in the Final Good game though but France were poor , Mbappe again fails to deliver on the big stage ,it can't be a coincidence that he keeps having off days when it counts most. Just not a big game player , I think he will struggle at Madrid . Olise is definitely in the same mould. Be interesting to see how he does at Bayern. My guess is he will do well. As for Mbappe, dont forget he was playing with a broken nose. It must affect your game.
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Originally posted by Elpis

That kid reminds me so much of Olise .Stop him coming inside and he is just a very good player instead of a brilliant one . Im sure Marc will have him sussed in the Final

Good game though but France were poor , Mbappe again fails to deliver on the big stage ,it can't be a coincidence that he keeps having off days when it counts most. Just not a big game player , I think he will struggle at Madrid .

Olise is definitely in the same mould. Be interesting to see how he does at Bayern. My guess is he will do well.
As for Mbappe, dont forget he was playing with a broken nose. It must affect your game.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jul 24 11.13am
Originally posted by Elpis Two penalties in that . He had a poor game against a poor Argentina side and only really turned up after the first pen on 80 minutes . fair enough a great strike for the second then another pen in extra time . He didn't have a great world cup ,goals against Denmark and Australia in the group and Poland rnd 16 are warm up matches .When it matters in the quarters v us and in the semi v Morocco he bottled it ,same as he bottled it last night . Arguing that a bloke who scored a hattrick in the biggest game in football is 'not a big game player' is hilarious and very Hol. He also scored in the final in 2018, becoming only the 2nd teenager ever to do so. He's also the first player ever to have 4 world cup final goals, and the 2nd player ever to score 8 knockout goals in the tournament (R9 Ronaldo was the first). 6th highest scorer in the tournaments history, and very likely to rank 1st by the time he retires. 'Just not a big game player'
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EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 10 Jul 24 11.13am

Originally posted by Elpis

Arguing that a bloke who scored a hattrick in the biggest game in football is 'not a big game player' is hilarious and very Hol.

He also scored in the final in 2018, becoming only the 2nd teenager ever to do so.

He's also the first player ever to have 4 world cup final goals, and the 2nd player ever to score 8 knockout goals in the tournament (R9 Ronaldo was the first).

6th highest scorer in the tournaments history, and very likely to rank 1st by the time he retires.

'Just not a big game player'

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Teddy Eagle 10 Jul 24 11.16am
Originally posted by Elpis Two penalties in that . He had a poor game against a poor Argentina side and only really turned up after the first pen on 80 minutes . fair enough a great strike for the second then another pen in extra time . He didn't have a great world cup ,goals against Denmark and Australia in the group and Poland rnd 16 are warm up matches .When it matters in the quarters v us and in the semi v Morocco he bottled it ,same as he bottled it last night . Fair enough. Football always elevates some players to superstar status (our media have done it with Foden and now Bellingham is getting it) and he's been one of those. Whether he's at that level is a matter of opinion. I haven't seen that much of him.
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Teddy Eagle

10 Jul 24 11.16am

Originally posted by Elpis

Fair enough. Football always elevates some players to superstar status (our media have done it with Foden and now Bellingham is getting it) and he's been one of those. Whether he's at that level is a matter of opinion. I haven't seen that much of him.

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dreamwaverider London 10 Jul 24 11.19am
If the French had the same courage as the Spanish and played Olise we would have seen two very similar players cutting in from the right and peppering the goal. The Spanish manager, de la Fuente , has the benefit of having managed the junior teams prior to his appointment of the senior teams and he had the guts and knowledge to play the upcoming stars with devastating effect. Southgate used to manage the juniors, but has taken a more conservative route on tactics, style and selection. Great shame he hasn't unleashed Wharton.
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London 10 Jul 24 11.19am

If the French had the same courage as the Spanish and played Olise we would have seen two very similar players cutting in from the right and peppering the goal.
The Spanish manager, de la Fuente , has the benefit of having managed the junior teams prior to his appointment of the senior teams and he had the guts and knowledge to play the upcoming stars with devastating effect.
Southgate used to manage the juniors, but has taken a more conservative route on tactics, style and selection. Great shame he hasn't unleashed Wharton.

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Elpis In a pub 10 Jul 24 11.31am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Arguing that a bloke who scored a hattrick in the biggest game in football is 'not a big game player' is hilarious and very Hol. He also scored in the final in 2018, becoming only the 2nd teenager ever to do so. He's also the first player ever to have 4 world cup final goals, and the 2nd player ever to score 8 knockout goals in the tournament (R9 Ronaldo was the first). 6th highest scorer in the tournaments history, and very likely to rank 1st by the time he retires. 'Just not a big game player' He was decent when he was a teenager but is one of those who believes his own press . Ive seen nothing in the last 4/5 years that would elevate him to a hall of fame status . Bottles it for PSG as well as soon as it matters in the CL . But yes it is very HOL I'll maybe have a decaff and calm down before the game tonight ,that Harry Kane had best turn up or he will be getting some of the same later
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In a pub 10 Jul 24 11.31am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Arguing that a bloke who scored a hattrick in the biggest game in football is 'not a big game player' is hilarious and very Hol.

He also scored in the final in 2018, becoming only the 2nd teenager ever to do so.

He's also the first player ever to have 4 world cup final goals, and the 2nd player ever to score 8 knockout goals in the tournament (R9 Ronaldo was the first).

6th highest scorer in the tournaments history, and very likely to rank 1st by the time he retires.

'Just not a big game player'

He was decent when he was a teenager but is one of those who believes his own press . Ive seen nothing in the last 4/5 years that would elevate him to a hall of fame status . Bottles it for PSG as well as soon as it matters in the CL .

But yes it is very HOL

I'll maybe have a decaff and calm down before the game tonight ,that Harry Kane had best turn up or he will be getting some of the same later

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jul 24 12.08pm
Originally posted by Elpis He was decent when he was a teenager but is one of those who believes his own press . Ive seen nothing in the last 4/5 years that would elevate him to a hall of fame status . Bottles it for PSG as well as soon as it matters in the CL . But yes it is very HOL I'll maybe have a decaff and calm down before the game tonight ,that Harry Kane had best turn up or he will be getting some of the same later I reckon being the first player in 50+ years to score a hatrick in WC final should do it! As will retiring as the competitions all-time top goalscorer Kane deserves it more than Mbappe to be fair!
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EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 10 Jul 24 12.08pm

Originally posted by Elpis

He was decent when he was a teenager but is one of those who believes his own press . Ive seen nothing in the last 4/5 years that would elevate him to a hall of fame status . Bottles it for PSG as well as soon as it matters in the CL .

But yes it is very HOL

I'll maybe have a decaff and calm down before the game tonight ,that Harry Kane had best turn up or he will be getting some of the same later

I reckon being the first player in 50+ years to score a hatrick in WC final should do it! As will retiring as the competitions all-time top goalscorer

Kane deserves it more than Mbappe to be fair!

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