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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Feb 22 11.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Read the entire article looking to see where it was 'debunked'.

Accept there was no debunking, mostly just the same arguments I myself answered on the previous page.

If the left didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all.

Indeed, we see the 'One nation Tory' linking to the leftist 'New Statesman'.....pretty much as modern left as you can get.

Funny that.

Perhaps the stunning reality that former sales and marketing managers might just not be the most honest people around should start to catch on.

Would we buy a second hand car from WE?

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 1.26pm)

Anyone reading that article with objectivity, and an open mind, would have no problem at all in debunking it. I am not the least surprised it didn't think it necessary to go into too much detail. The lucid details of those who have been inspired by the "Great replacement theory" ought to be enough to inform anyone that it's nuts. It is really obvious, but as some apparently have difficulty let me, at least try, to assist.

This theory isn't new. It's been around, in one form or another, for at least a century, and has never been proven true. It makes several, false assumptions. Not least that there is a "white" race to protect when the truth is that there is only one race, the human race. There are different ethnicities, and cultures, but they are forever modifying and adapting, today faster than ever. Then there is the fact that the people this conspiracy defines as "white", are not going to cease to exist, and are certainly not subject to a genocide. There's not a shred of evidence to support such an idea.

The only thing that is inevitable is that there will be change. Nothing remains as it is. Evolution is real. Those who predict, as the Great replacement theory does, what those changes will be, are fools. We can estimate probabilities at best.

It seems probable that whilst our birthrates decline we will see continuing immigration, at least in the short-term. But too many unknowns exist for any predictions beyond that. If the developing world develops, as we hope, and we decline, which we hope it won't, the pull decreases. Technology and automation will reduce our need for labour, although our need for care will increase.

The new citizens already here will merge and assimilate, as they always do, after a while and maybe several generations. As they become culturally British the only thing that will set them apart will be their skin colour. The young of today are much less inclined than the older generations to even see a person's skin colour, and they are the future. Our future won't look like today, any more than today looks like that of our father's, or his that of our grandfather's. It won't be the same, but it will be fine.

Those with a mind set that sees "whiteness" as something to protect will never get this. Those who care about culture and tradition need have nothing to fear. It is being enriched, not wiped out.

The Great replacement is sugar coated racism wrapped up in a conspiracy theory designed to enrage the minds of the far-right.

It isn't real. It's dangerous. It produces extremism and extremists. It's at least partly why the far-right are regarded by the intelligence services as our biggest threat.


 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Feb 22 11.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I didn't read that....he's so full of it I just couldn't be bothered.

What I do know though is that an article that he said did 'debunking' did nothing of the kind.

He's just an apologist for neo and social liberalism, he just wants to present its destructions within a positive light.....while denying a political option to anyone who objects to it all.

I believe that people should live the politics they advocate for so he shouldn't really be living in a high white majority area, he should live right bang in what his politics advocates for.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 11.16pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Feb 22 11.18pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I met him and have his autograph. EBay!

I never met him, but I once bought a house from someone who knew him well. It was close to Stoke Mandeville Hospital and their little girl was being regularly treated there as an inpatient.

Saville befriended the family, visited them at home, and used to leave his Roller in what became my garage, get out his bike and ride to the hospital for the photo opportunities.

I always thought he was creepy, but they had nothing but praise for the way he raised money. He was clearly a great con man, who fooled a lot of people a lot of the time. Those were different times too, when things were thought OK that would see people castigated today.

Looking back at it now I realise that the mother, who would have been at home on her own most times when Saville visited, was herself very tiny and childlike.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Feb 22 11.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I didn't read that....he's so full of it I just couldn't be bothered.

What I do know though is that an article that he said did 'debunking' did nothing of the kind.

He's just an apologist for neo and social liberalism, he just wants to present its destructions within a positive light.....while denying a political option to anyone who objects to it all.

I believe that people should live the politics they advocate for so he shouldn't really be living in a high white majority area, he should live right bang in what his politics advocates for.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 11.16pm)

When you counter bs, it matters not whether the bsh*tter reads it. It just matters it is countered.

However, if one debunking, and/or my explanation, isn't sufficient, try another

There are plenty of them:-

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The great replacement isn't real. It's racism, wrapped up in a conspiracy theory. Those who believe it need to take a good hard look at themselves.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Feb 22 11.55pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Most 'racism accusations are anti whites slurs.....and in this case you can see it's from a disfigurement who is quite happy to see the native British disappear from their homeland and he supports those who enact it.

All while being the complete hypocrite by living in a high white majority area with high trust low crime.

Transfer his racism claims BS to what China is doing to Tibet and other ethnic cleansing exercises.

It's the use and abuse of language to frighten people away from commenting on what's happening in front of their eyes.

Doesn't work on me.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 11.58pm)

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 09 Feb 22 12.00am

Yawn

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Feb 22 12.05am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Yawn

You should get some sleep.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 09 Feb 22 12.12am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Most 'racism accusations are anti whites slurs.....and in this case you can see it's from a disfigurement who is quite happy to see the native British disappear from their homeland and he supports those who enact it.

All while being the complete hypocrite by living in a high white majority area with high trust low crime.

Transfer his racism claims BS to what China is doing to Tibet and other ethnic cleansing exercises.

It's the use and abuse of language to frighten people away from commenting on what's happening in front of their eyes.

Doesn't work on me.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 11.58pm)


I must say that, even upon reflection, I still find this idea that offering a level playing field to Brits born here of different races as evidence that I've somehow been 'found out' or said something that needs to be 'noted', to be the feedback of someone dishing out second rate treatment and third rate ideas.


Should we get into your publicly stated fourth rate treatment of your own on account of their sexuality (or 'faggots' as you've called gays people on here) or issues such as aspergers within the family - which you consider a drain on the state - until it impacts you personally then it's different? Is your far right ideology all that useful to us, you and yours or pointless, cruel self indulgence?


Edited by BlueJay (09 Feb 2022 12.14am)

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Feb 22 12.13am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

"Downing Street bought a fridge for a meeting room with taxpayers' money around the time No 10 was hosting "wine time Fridays" and other parties, The Independent can reveal.

Boris Johnson was urged to "come clean" about how much public money had been spent on the lockdown bashes – a fact which is yet to have been established about the rule-breaking gatherings.

No 10 insisted that the publicly-funded fridge was not involved in the festivities but shadow attorney general Emily Thornberry told The Independent that the government had questions to answer about any potential "misuse of public funds".

The Daily Mirror reported last month that a wine fridge had been "smuggled" into No 10 through the backdoor to hold bottles for the regular gatherings – prompting anger at a time when indoor socialising was supposed to be banned." (Yahoo)

At a time where Boris's trip to the Ukraine was largely unnoticed, today it is reported Macron and Putin had progressive talks.
How do we get this clown out of 10 Downing St ?

One of the top jobs in the UK, and he's still on a learning curve. Is being a PM some sort of apprentice where it's OK to continually fck things up ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (08 Feb 2022 3.19pm)

and Dawn Butler bought a jacuzzi. Fridge purchase trumps inflation, fuel prices etc etc as a headline issue

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Feb 22 12.16am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I never met him, but I once bought a house from someone who knew him well. It was close to Stoke Mandeville Hospital and their little girl was being regularly treated there as an inpatient.

Saville befriended the family, visited them at home, and used to leave his Roller in what became my garage, get out his bike and ride to the hospital for the photo opportunities.

I always thought he was creepy, but they had nothing but praise for the way he raised money. He was clearly a great con man, who fooled a lot of people a lot of the time. Those were different times too, when things were thought OK that would see people castigated today.

Looking back at it now I realise that the mother, who would have been at home on her own most times when Saville visited, was herself very tiny and childlike.

Your ongoing efforts in " look at me " even extend to trying to establish a vicarious connection with Saville.

Worthy of sympathy .

Do you have no sense of self awareness on how much you post about yourself compared to others on here? ( rhetorical )

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Feb 22 12.27am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I must say that, even upon reflection, I still find this idea that offering a level playing field to Brits born here of different races as evidence that I've somehow been 'found out' or said something that needs to be 'noted', to be the feedback of someone dishing out second rate treatment and third rate ideas.


What annoys me about your attitude isn't your egalitarian attitude to ancestral rights to land...which for you doesn't appear to exist it's your denial of political representation to those that do....that really annoys me on several levels but frankly I didn't want to talk about it....hence the 'note'.


Originally posted by BlueJay

Should we get into your publicly stated fourth rate treatment of your own on account of their sexuality (or 'faggots' as you've called gays people on here) or issues such as aspergers within the family - which you consider a drain on the state - until it impacts you personally then it's different? Is your far right ideology all that useful to us, you and yours or pointless, cruel self indulgence?


Edited by BlueJay (09 Feb 2022 12.14am)

Yeah, get into them.

I have zero hypocrisy with any of those statements.

If you don't like them tough......though what you think I believe in any of these areas isn't likely to be that accurate.

But that's something you do....you take a sentence and decide that it represents the entirety of someone's opinion on a topic.

I could do the same with you.... take your comment that people dying in hospital who weren't vaccinated are 'prize prats'. I could say that represents an incredibly insensitive opinion from someone who thinks moral grandstanding is somehow justified over deaths.

Do I think you are actually that.....no, I just think you are like most of us....you might say something that's only partially covers your viewpoint....or one side of it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2022 12.28am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Feb 22 12.32am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Most 'racism accusations are anti whites slurs.....and in this case you can see it's from a disfigurement who is quite happy to see the native British disappear from their homeland and he supports those who enact it.

All while being the complete hypocrite by living in a high white majority area with high trust low crime.

Transfer his racism claims BS to what China is doing to Tibet and other ethnic cleansing exercises.

It's the use and abuse of language to frighten people away from commenting on what's happening in front of their eyes.

Doesn't work on me.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Feb 2022 11.58pm)

Let's just look at some of those assertions.

"Most 'racism accusations are anti whites slurs".

How can this possibly be true when white isn't a race. It's a skin colour.

"quite happy to see the native British disappear from their homeland and he supports those who enact it."

As explained in my previous posts this is specious nonsense. There is no possibility of the British disappearing from our homeland, so nothing to support, even if I would support such a ridiculous concept, which I would not.

As explained countless times, where I live has no bearing on my ability to think or reason. I used to live in Wisbech, which is as rural and less cosmopolitan than here.

I don't and never have or will support what China are doing in their ethnic cleansing programmes.

The only thing people who believe this nonsense are seeing "in front of their very eyes" are bs conspiracy theories spread by malicious and dangerous idiots on the internet.

I am 77, I have an excuse to spend more time online these days. Those who are younger do not. They could benefit from making some real contacts with the groups they are so scared of, so they could start to realise they aren't a threat.

Fortunately there are moves afoot, internationally, to get a better grip on this and insist that the social media platforms operate better moderation and fact checking services. It will be too little, too late and be imperfect, but it's a start.

 


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