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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 06 Jul 16 7.45pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

I have a feeling that this one is drifting away from us, like smoke through fingers, and if it does, nothing much will happen whilst we're on a beano in the US and Little-America...shame really

 


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ItsCPFCforme Flag 06 Jul 16 7.53pm Send a Private Message to ItsCPFCforme Add ItsCPFCforme as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

Papers can print all the rubbish they want and people will still buy them. Betting companies can actually lose a lot of money if they get their odds wrong. They will be much more careful than any news outlet.

They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win.

In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.

 

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 16 8.13pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

JEEZ...zus!

Is this thread STILL going?

 


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tillysosser Flag far far away 06 Jul 16 8.21pm Send a Private Message to tillysosser Add tillysosser as a friend

yep sorry lads but to be honest i really dont think this one is going to happen.


i mean thinking about it......... benteke a crystal palace player......... really???

 

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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Jul 16 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme

They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win.

In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.


On one hand you're correct in that transfer / next manager market odds are not a trustworthy barometer of what will happen. The market moves nearly 100% due to where the money is going at that time, which in turn is largely influenced by news outlets reporting a club's interest rather than inside info as so many people presume.

So if it tomorrow someone reports that Stoke have put in a bid, immediately people will pile into those odds and the odds will tumble. It really doesn't take much, a £1000 bet will happily move something from 12/1 to 2/1 in these markets.

On the other hand you are incorrect, both about the bookies always winning and about the Leicester result being profitable. Bookies may win in the long term but on single events we lose money every single day to varying degrees. These football specials markets, in particular, are a nightmare and regularly leak money.

Additionally the Leicester result was one of the worst in the history of the industry. They were backed from 5000/1 all the way down and at most firms it was, in the end, a case of anyone but them being an acceptable result.

 


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Alex1991 Flag Ashford 06 Jul 16 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by ItsCPFCforme

They only assume that, because bets have come in, someone must 'know' something.. It's all guess work. Yes, they have to be careful, but it's all speculation at the end of the day. If Benteke DID go to West Ham, bookies would still make a killing of all those who bet he was going to Palace and vice versa. It's like those talking about how bookies lost money when Leicester won the league... Not at all! They'd have picked up a fortune from all those people who had bet on Man U/City/Chelsea etc to win the league. They always win.

In short, I wouldn't read TOO much into it.

I'd say the bookies have the same amount of moles as the news outlets and probably more reliable ones due to the financial implications. The market/odds are not entirely reactionary and based on bets coming in. I do agree about the amount of money they make but they always fix the odds in their favour regardless....

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 06 Jul 16 8.53pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


On one hand you're correct in that transfer / next manager market odds are not a trustworthy barometer of what will happen. The market moves nearly 100% due to where the money is going at that time, which in turn is largely influenced by news outlets reporting a club's interest rather than inside info as so many people presume.

So if it tomorrow someone reports that Stoke have put in a bid, immediately people will pile into those odds and the odds will tumble. It really doesn't take much, a £1000 bet will happily move something from 12/1 to 2/1 in these markets.

On the other hand you are incorrect, both about the bookies always winning and about the Leicester result being profitable. Bookies may win in the long term but on single events we lose money every single day to varying degrees. These football specials markets, in particular, are a nightmare and regularly leak money.

Additionally the Leicester result was one of the worst in the history of the industry. They were backed from 5000/1 all the way down and at most firms it was, in the end, a case of anyone but them being an acceptable result.

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The eagle's Flag 06 Jul 16 9.00pm Send a Private Message to The eagle's Add The eagle's as a friend

Definitely not looking good now down to 1/4 from 1/12 west ham now 7/2 looks to me his going to west ham thought it wouldn't happen as this should of been over the line like yesterday as I've said just pay the money like west ham are going to do with 30m in cash not fxxk arsingabout seen it all before with Darren bent and we were 1/20 on than and still managed to f*** it up

 

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jimruss Flag Sidcup 06 Jul 16 9.13pm Send a Private Message to jimruss Add jimruss as a friend

Don't worry, if this goes down the sh1tter it'll be Campbell's chance to shine up front

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 06 Jul 16 9.16pm

While we were the only show in town the game was clearly to keep raising the stakes with double benefit of establishing an inflated price and buying time in case another bidder came along. I don't think he was ever coming to us and we have just been strung along to keep the price up. We should walk away.

 


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Pinkfluff1981 Flag 06 Jul 16 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Pinkfluff1981 Add Pinkfluff1981 as a friend

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It's all media hype, bookies etc. Nobody really knows apart from a select few people from either club and Benteke. They ain't going to be talking to media or bookies. So keep believing...,I must admit I look on the internet all throughout the day at the moment hoping to see some news regarding this move for benteke

Edited by Pinkfluff1981 (06 Jul 2016 9.34pm)

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 06 Jul 16 9.23pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pinkfluff1981

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It's all media hype, bookies etc. Nobody really knows apart from a select few people from either club and Benteke and they ain't gummy be talking to media or bookies. So keep believing...,I must admit I look on the internet all throughout the day at the moment hoping to see some news regarding this move for benteke

Very wise words there, but ewaier said than done!

 

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