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I think there is a good case for nationalising the railways, but agree that a UKIP government would be unlikely to do it. The key reason for supporting UKIP is to escape from the death-grip of the EU. Give them a massive vote in the EU elections to put pressure on the other parties to get out. In the UK General Election vote for a party that can win and promises a referendum - obviously the Tories at the moment (but who knows perhaps Labour will jump on the bandwagon). When we have the referendum, which would almost certainly result in a vote to leave the EU, then once we are out, go back to voting for socialist or green parties if you are daft enough to believe in their 'systems'.

Edited by kangel (17 May 2014 1.00pm)

I'd rather have my eyes gouged out than vote for UKIP. They're forming alliances with European far right fascist parties. Do you really want to give them a mandate to continue this?

Edited by nickgusset (17 May 2014 1.03pm)

With an ageing population we certainly do need more young people in the country, either through immigration or higher birth rates. Are you doing your bit?

Oft repeated but not the full picture. We have no problem accepting that many people struggle to deal with an influx of immigrants into their communities. Apparently people who actually come to apprecciate the commonality they find with people from different backgrounds are simply lying or living in areas of near zero immigrant though. Feeling the impact of infrastructure strain is one thing, but plenty of people on here simply don't like being around people they deem to be 'foreign' in one sense or another. They don't help UKIP, they drag them down.

Edited by luckybuck (17 May 2014 1.39pm)

Of course there would be a deluge of propaganda desperately trying to convince the people that coming out of the EU would be the end of the world. However, the people generally have a great deal more common sense and can see what is in front of their noses than they are given credit for. The recent PR referendum shows this, as will the Scottish people rejecting Salmond's blandishments.

Well you seem to have your eyes closed in supporting the TUSC which includes the far left communist parties, the Socialist Workers Party and the Socialist Party.

Well having a left wing viewpoint I would have more in common with them. That said, my views about the swp are almost as vitriolic as those of ukip.

It would seem that it's LibLabCon politicians and their lackies who are scared of UKIP, not the electorate.

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This is exactly right.

It can be seen in elitist actions like denying the population the option of capital punishment.....When the majority have wanted it for decades.

It can be seen with the elite's rush to join and pay for anything the EU has created....Changing a small but important project into a giant dictatorial white elephant.

We have a representative democracy which means in essence rule by so called elites.....But in truth, rule by wealth.

Meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss.....It's the same as it ever was but the people just have different accents and call themselves different names.

Not everything the mob believes in I agree with either...For example, the movement again the Iraq war.... but I do recognise that implementation of what the majority wishes (with minority protection) is better than the filtered democracy by elite that we in reality get.

Politicians have too much power and cock everything up...I'm not sure that it wouldn't be better if we just had a civil service and politicians just acted as advertisers fir policies that the public then voted for.....Changing it from power by elite to power by the politically active within the population....Far better representation and creating a real energizing of politics.

No more government with their vested interests and short termism....No more elections.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2014 2.23pm)

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