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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 20 10.36am
And Boris is a completely fat pig. I disengage, I turn the page.
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And Boris is a completely fat pig.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 20 10.51am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly You talk very well Rudi. My main concerns are: 1. Scientific advice has been politically manipulated, mainly over concerns with the economy. Professor Chris Whitty has been totally discredited. 2. Human nature/complacency is kicking-in and relying on people conforming to guidance is now (seemingly) on a downward trend. I guess the only thing now, is to suck it and see. Chris Whitty is the reason we get cities or regions closed down because of 20 odd infections or a rise in infections from, wait for it, more testing. The positive tests from tests carried out has flatlined. They’re just testing more people, not finding rises in infections all over the place. You could say the medical ‘experts’ have got carried away with themselves without any thought of economic consequences, which include damage to health, and of course the 50% drop in heart attack admissions and 50% drop in cancer referrals. The whole thing is farcical and why I say the vulnerable should be shielding while everyone else repairs the damage and saves their future. I’ve said this to several oldies. Why they’ve been encouraged to and feel safe now and going forward because of face cloths is negligent advice from the government and loads of others. Keep your bubble limited and maintain high standards of hygiene. The winter is only going to be more farcical. COYP
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Caterham 11 Aug 20 10.51am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

You talk very well Rudi. My main concerns are:

1. Scientific advice has been politically manipulated, mainly over concerns with the economy.
Professor Chris Whitty has been totally discredited.
2. Human nature/complacency is kicking-in and relying on people conforming to guidance is now (seemingly) on a downward trend.

I guess the only thing now, is to suck it and see.

Chris Whitty is the reason we get cities or regions closed down because of 20 odd infections or a rise in infections from, wait for it, more testing. The positive tests from tests carried out has flatlined. They’re just testing more people, not finding rises in infections all over the place.

You could say the medical ‘experts’ have got carried away with themselves without any thought of economic consequences, which include damage to health, and of course the 50% drop in heart attack admissions and 50% drop in cancer referrals.

The whole thing is farcical and why I say the vulnerable should be shielding while everyone else repairs the damage and saves their future. I’ve said this to several oldies. Why they’ve been encouraged to and feel safe now and going forward because of face cloths is negligent advice from the government and loads of others. Keep your bubble limited and maintain high standards of hygiene. The winter is only going to be more farcical.

COYP

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Badger11 Beckenham 11 Aug 20 10.59am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Evidence from schools being open around the world? Teachers and children are not falling ill to this virus anywhere. Nicola Sturgeon? Laugh out loud. The biggest liar there is. She’s like a child playing Covid policy top trumps. Her record on everything is terrible. Scotland’s care home problems were even worse than England. I doubt Scotland could afford to pay for the costs of furloughing they are relying on the English taxpayer as usual. Boris should remind the Bravehearts of that. One more point
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Beckenham 11 Aug 20 10.59am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Evidence from schools being open around the world? Teachers and children are not falling ill to this virus anywhere.

Nicola Sturgeon? Laugh out loud. The biggest liar there is. She’s like a child playing Covid policy top trumps. Her record on everything is terrible. Scotland’s care home problems were even worse than England.

I doubt Scotland could afford to pay for the costs of furloughing they are relying on the English taxpayer as usual. Boris should remind the Bravehearts of that.

One more point

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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Aug 20 12.04pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I doubt Scotland could afford to pay for the costs of furloughing they are relying on the English taxpayer as usual. Boris should remind the Bravehearts of that. The scots don't need any reminding from Johnson and neither does anywhere else in the world. He is like a sick old relative hanging on, unable to understand he is not wanted only grudgingly for the money. That's all that's left of our influence in the World.
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Croydon 11 Aug 20 12.04pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I doubt Scotland could afford to pay for the costs of furloughing they are relying on the English taxpayer as usual. Boris should remind the Bravehearts of that.

The scots don't need any reminding from Johnson and neither does anywhere else in the world.

He is like a sick old relative hanging on, unable to understand he is not wanted only grudgingly for the money.

That's all that's left of our influence in the World.

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AERO 11 Aug 20 12.10pm
Slightly off topic but I am hearing through my union that the Transport industry (Bus Companies ) Are asking the government to extend the Furlough scheme until January. Wouldn't have thought the government would be able to afford this ? Thoughts
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11 Aug 20 12.10pm

Slightly off topic but I am hearing through my union that the Transport industry (Bus Companies ) Are asking the government to extend the Furlough scheme until January. Wouldn't have thought the government would be able to afford this ? Thoughts

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 20 12.31pm
Originally posted by AERO Slightly off topic but I am hearing through my union that the Transport industry (Bus Companies ) Are asking the government to extend the Furlough scheme until January. Wouldn't have thought the government would be able to afford this ? Thoughts The Tory Government have repeatedly depleted public (transport) services. In rural areas bus services/train services are unviable without Government monies, If you were going to write a farce, this would be looking like something unbelievable, to be rejected. I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 20 12.31pm

Originally posted by AERO

The Tory Government have repeatedly depleted public (transport) services. In rural areas bus services/train services are unviable without Government monies,

If you were going to write a farce, this would be looking like something unbelievable, to be rejected.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 20 12.39pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I am not going to get involved in a discussion on this subject but must comment that your 2 nd paragraph describes yourself perfectly I always respect experts in their special fields, whether they be the police or scientific, and prefer to trust their judgement as being properly informed rather than those who gain their "information" from dubious sources on the internet. So I reject your assertion as a cheap, unwarranted and personal slur. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 20 12.39pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I am not going to get involved in a discussion on this subject but must comment that your 2 nd paragraph describes yourself perfectly

I always respect experts in their special fields, whether they be the police or scientific, and prefer to trust their judgement as being properly informed rather than those who gain their "information" from dubious sources on the internet.

So I reject your assertion as a cheap, unwarranted and personal slur.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Aug 20 12.40pm
Originally posted by AERO Slightly off topic but I am hearing through my union that the Transport industry (Bus Companies ) Are asking the government to extend the Furlough scheme until January. Wouldn't have thought the government would be able to afford this ? Thoughts Some industries that can’t reopen might have to be furloughed. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Aug 20 12.40pm

Originally posted by AERO

Some industries that can’t reopen might have to be furloughed.

COYP

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Badger11 Beckenham 11 Aug 20 12.41pm
Originally posted by AERO Slightly off topic but I am hearing through my union that the Transport industry (Bus Companies ) Are asking the government to extend the Furlough scheme until January. Wouldn't have thought the government would be able to afford this ? Thoughts Subsiding the transport companies is one thing paying for their employees to sit at home is quite another. The sooner we end the furlough scheme the better. It maybe that there will be companies that need extra support but that is very different from the furlough scheme which I think is now being abused by some people. Originally we were told to stay at home which was fair enough but apart from the sectors that this still applies to all fit people should be back at work. One more point
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Beckenham 11 Aug 20 12.41pm

Originally posted by AERO

Subsiding the transport companies is one thing paying for their employees to sit at home is quite another.

The sooner we end the furlough scheme the better. It maybe that there will be companies that need extra support but that is very different from the furlough scheme which I think is now being abused by some people.

Originally we were told to stay at home which was fair enough but apart from the sectors that this still applies to all fit people should be back at work.

One more point

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Spiderman Horsham 11 Aug 20 12.54pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I always respect experts in their special fields, whether they be the police or scientific, and prefer to trust their judgement as being properly informed rather than those who gain their "information" from dubious sources on the internet. So I reject your assertion as a cheap, unwarranted and personal slur. But it is alright for you to aim similar at other posters! Bit hypocritical
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Horsham 11 Aug 20 12.54pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So I reject your assertion as a cheap, unwarranted and personal slur.

But it is alright for you to aim similar at other posters! Bit hypocritical

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Aug 20 1.01pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I always respect experts in their special fields, whether they be the police or scientific, and prefer to trust their judgement as being properly informed rather than those who gain their "information" from dubious sources on the internet. So I reject your assertion as a cheap, unwarranted and personal slur. Oh, it must be a dull day in Cornwall. Wisbech is out for his monthly trolling session.
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