You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic
January 31 2025 8.05pm

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

The Brexit Thread (LOCKED)

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 527 of 2586 < 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 >

Topic Locked

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Jan 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

She's been an mp for 30 years, so must be doing something right.
In that 30 years she has been constantly vilified with the school angle being bought up time and time again or a single tweet that was published out of context that was heavily insinuated to be racist.
If anyone can come up with some other misdemeanors from Abbot (yes we know she shagged Corbyn but that isn't really that big adeal is it.) I'd be only too happy to read about them.
2 things in 30 years of being an MP repeated over and over again you soon get people equating her as a racist hypocrite which then becomes synonymous with her name. Funny how you never hear anything about her policy or good work she does for her constituents.

She's by no means perfect, but if she was racist, do you think that she would be able to hold down a position in the shadow cabinet without the press having an even bigger field day?

Because it is the usual double standards and selective outrage of the liberal/left. Racism against black people is treated as the vilest of thought crimes whereas racism against white people, especially Jews (unless expressed by the far right) is considered more or less cool.

Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Jan 2017 10.16pm)

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 10.31pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Because it is the usual double standards and selective outrage of the liberal/left. Racism against black people is treated as the vilest of thought crimes whereas racism against white people, especially Jews (unless expressed by the far right) is considered more or less cool.

Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Jan 2017 10.16pm)

Give me the evidence showing her to be racist. And not 1 out of context tweet.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 26 Jan 17 8.19am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Give me the evidence showing her to be racist. And not 1 out of context tweet.

Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car.

1988, “the British invented racism.”
1996, “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”
(Aided and abetted by the racist supporter of attempts to behead policemen, Bernie Grant, who added “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".)
2012,”White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game”,
(Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.” Members of the public lodged complaints but the police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.” – contrast of course with the likes of John Terry.)
2012, “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.01am

Originally posted by elgrande

Where shall we start nick,little Jimmy krankie will not win a second vote on the referendum ( and she knows it).
If they had independence after we left Europe they would be up s***e creek without a paddle.
There oil is running out,she is doing it to justify her position.
And that brings us to the wonderful Dianne Abbot,well apart from her racist views (which she seems to get away with wonder why).
Then there is the Sheer hypocrisy of the private school fiasco...don't do as I do ..do as I say,the very epitome of the champagne socialist.

Wasting your time.... Union officials DON'T listen!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.04am

Originally posted by steeleye20

How about not slagging off anybody at all.

Says the man who is on Theresa May's case 24/7 FFS

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
Part Time James Flag 26 Jan 17 11.07am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car.

1988, “the British invented racism.”
1996, “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”
(Aided and abetted by the racist supporter of attempts to behead policemen, Bernie Grant, who added “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".)
2012,”White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game”,
(Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.” Members of the public lodged complaints but the police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.” – contrast of course with the likes of John Terry.)
2012, “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

I sense an incoming link to a left wing blog post in response to your quotes

 




Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Jan 17 11.11am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Says the man who is on Theresa May's case 24/7 FFS

Please supply evidence of this

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.12am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car.

1988, “the British invented racism.”
1996, “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”
(Aided and abetted by the racist supporter of attempts to behead policemen, Bernie Grant, who added “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".)
2012,”White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game”,
(Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.” Members of the public lodged complaints but the police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.” – contrast of course with the likes of John Terry.)
2012, “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Nah.... he wouldn't... but he'd condone Momentum doing it "as stuff like Austerity fcuks up peoples lives blah blah..."

Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 Jan 2017 11.13am)

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
Part Time James Flag 26 Jan 17 11.16am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

True...probably though perhaps it would be a liberation for all of us

Edited by Sedlescombe (25 Jan 2017 4.58pm)

I am treating the whole thread in the tongue in cheek way it deserves. None of us are likely to change anything in terms of Brexit (presumably we're all chit chatting on here and none of us are doing a huge amount to actually influence anything - I am happy to be corrected on that but I imagine it to be the minority if at all), more so, none of us are likely to change each other's opinions either. On that basis it feels like this thread has been in stalemate for quite some time. At least pre-vote there might have been some point to it.

That said, I'm not trying to suggest that anyone should be telling anyone else what they can and can't discuss/argue about, so hopefully it doesn't sound like that's what I am trying to do.

I just think that if I see someone in the street wearing a Palace top then that's all I need to know about them to give them a nod and perhaps say "eeeeeagles" and I don't give two sh*ts about their political beliefs. I am prepared to bet most of us are the same. So an argument on a forum thread that often gets a bit beyond banter and whereby no one is likely to ever budge on their opinion that they had on page 1 of 500,000 (or whatever we are on) seems a wee bit fruitless.

 




Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.16am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Please supply evidence of this

Don't be silly I'd be here all day listing the threads and posts where you have blamed her for everything going wrong!

Besides which, you know that you have, so cut the innocent act.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
Part Time James Flag 26 Jan 17 11.16am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

That said, I probably shouldn't dip in here at all!

 




Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Jan 17 11.27am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Please supply evidence of this

Where is your evidence please

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post

Topic Locked

Page 527 of 2586 < 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic