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 steeleye20  Croydon 20 Nov 23 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You would need to be inside the jury room to know how and why someone is acquitted. It only takes one strong voice to overpower the opinions of others who just want to go home for a case to be lost against all reason. I know I will be mocked for pointing this out but it is the hope of Trump’s defence that they can get one “hold out” in place on the juries that will decide his trials. Did the jury decide that it is HSBC who have been damaging us (100 billion investment in fossil fuels)? Quite an outpouring today against the rich billionaires, bankers, corporations whose carbon imprint vastly outweighs the common man and is directly harming the planet.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 20 Nov 23 6.25pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Did the jury decide that it is HSBC who have been damaging us (100 billion investment in fossil fuels)? Quite an outpouring today against the rich billionaires, bankers, corporations whose carbon imprint vastly outweighs the common man and is directly harming the planet.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Nov 23 7.49pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Yeah, but does Steely agree with your politics because that's the important thing.
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| Stirlingsays 20 Nov 23 7.52pm |
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In any normal state damaging the property of someone else is wrong just as would stealing it would be wrong. The fact that it now takes the right to actually make a big deal of this says something about the decline of the left.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Did the jury decide that it is HSBC who have been damaging us (100 billion investment in fossil fuels)? Quite an outpouring today against the rich billionaires, bankers, corporations whose carbon imprint vastly outweighs the common man and is directly harming the planet.
Who knows what was said in the jury room but HSBC weren’t on trial so I doubt it. How a jury found them not guilty, given what we know, seems incredible to me. There must have been a hold out.
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Teddy Eagle  20 Nov 23 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who knows what was said in the jury room but HSBC weren’t on trial so I doubt it. How a jury found them not guilty, given what we know, seems incredible to me. There must have been a hold out. Since deliberation only took two hours the other 11 must have given up pretty quickly.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Since deliberation only took two hours the other 11 must have given up pretty quickly. We’ll never know will we?
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| Teddy Eagle 20 Nov 23 9.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We’ll never know will we? We'll have to conclude that stand out was so convincing that the rest of them changed their minds.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 20 Nov 23 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who knows what was said in the jury room but HSBC weren’t on trial so I doubt it. How a jury found them not guilty, given what we know, seems incredible to me. There must have been a hold out. Wonder if the jury was swayed by the alleged cost of the damage which HSBC submitted. Perhaps the jury didn’t believe the amount and therefore by default swayed towards an acquittal.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Nov 23 10.30pm |
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It must have been quite a trial with powerful arguments on both sides. And there is no dispute the defence admits harming the building. A defeat for the establishment that needs order and consistency to maintain its power. Only two hours of deliberation. The context of climate breakdown and the role of banks for example unfortunately you would have had to be there.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
We'll have to conclude that stand out was so convincing that the rest of them changed their minds. Not if a unanimous verdict was required. If they were adamant they would never change their mind then the lure of release might have encouraged the others to just call it a day.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 10.50pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It must have been quite a trial with powerful arguments on both sides. And there is no dispute the defence admits harming the building. A defeat for the establishment that needs order and consistency to maintain its power. Only two hours of deliberation. The context of climate breakdown and the role of banks for example unfortunately you would have had to be there. There is no logical defence for the wilful destruction of the property of another. In any circumstances. No matter how powerful the convictions. It’s not protesting. It’s vandalism.
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