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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 12.11pm | |
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When you consider all the crap and rubbish that the left think about exploitation and white people both present and historical I want to highlight something that does actually deserve it.....both historically and present. Something that does actually fit the victim narrative. Exploiters of any race who go to poor countries to peel off a woman they could never get in the west are pathetic and exploiters of humanity. Why don't the mainstream left get off their knees and scream about real sh1t like this. Aside from that there is a whole sex slave industry that is largely absent from public discourse. Instead it's usually social conservatism that shouts about this. [Tweet Link]
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silvertop Portishead 19 Nov 23 4.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
ECHR, another piece of red tape that Boris promised to rid the UK of. That British lawyers largely drafted informed by centuries of English common law and in reaction to the horrors of the War. Those who advocate its removal and other judicial blocks to executive decision making tend to shut up when they realise what that actually means - dictatorship.
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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
That British lawyers largely drafted informed by centuries of English common law and in reaction to the horrors of the War. Those who advocate its removal and other judicial blocks to executive decision making tend to shut up when they realise what that actually means - dictatorship. You are literally calling the time before it a dictatorship.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Nov 23 6.22pm | |
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Not for the first time we get pontification here by someone who knows nothing about the subject based on some video clips spliced together to tell a fake story. The idea that young women are sold in the Philippines is total garbage. It isn’t true and anyone caught trying to do it would face a jail sentence. I have lived there. I know what’s true and what’s myth. What is true is that many young women want to meet and marry a “foreigner” who will take them to their country where they can work and send money back to support their family, especially their parents. Family is everything in the Philippines and the duty to look after your parents is an overwhelming obligation. Either that or the husband will find his wife expects him to help her family when a crisis comes along. Escaping poverty enables them to do that but they do so entirely of their own free will. Girls aren’t sold. They may deliberately target foreigners but can reject offers and may chat online to many men, and then meet several in person before accepting one. Before they can be granted exit clearance both they and their prospective husband are subjected to several checks and she is provided with contacts in the country she will move to, so if things turn out badly she can be rescued. In fact many very happy marriages result, alongside a few disasters. The disasters though are less than those seen in other marriages. Many husbands find they acquire a whole new family circle who see him as the centre of their world and provide him with a status they never had before. The idea that this is sex slavery is nonsense.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Nov 23 7.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I write this with considerable irritation and a little annoyance. A month or two ago I made the point that protestors who had caused criminal damage were being let off or given a soft touch by our liberal justice system....which essentially judges through a political lens. I was told...I think by SW19....that I was over reacting and that this isn't the case (because he could point to judgements). He viewed the case in Bristol where criminals were let off as an anomaly. Well, just three days ago it's happened again. Criminal damage being accepted if you share the politics of those making the decisions. I get fed up with making these points and then getting replies that don't take this issue seriously enough....This is absolutely outrageous. It is legal decline manifest. [Tweet Link]
Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 10.53am) Note how their names and ages are reported in the media and not their addresses. Now compare that to the right wing arrests at the Cenataph which has names, ages , towns and in some cases the streets. Gives you a clue as to where the media’s impartially is.
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georgenorman 19 Nov 23 8.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not for the first time we get pontification here by someone who knows nothing about the subject based on some video clips spliced together to tell a fake story. The idea that young women are sold in the Philippines is total garbage. It isn’t true and anyone caught trying to do it would face a jail sentence. I have lived there. I know what’s true and what’s myth. What is true is that many young women want to meet and marry a “foreigner” who will take them to their country where they can work and send money back to support their family, especially their parents. Family is everything in the Philippines and the duty to look after your parents is an overwhelming obligation. Either that or the husband will find his wife expects him to help her family when a crisis comes along. Escaping poverty enables them to do that but they do so entirely of their own free will. Girls aren’t sold. They may deliberately target foreigners but can reject offers and may chat online to many men, and then meet several in person before accepting one. Before they can be granted exit clearance both they and their prospective husband are subjected to several checks and she is provided with contacts in the country she will move to, so if things turn out badly she can be rescued. In fact many very happy marriages result, alongside a few disasters. The disasters though are less than those seen in other marriages. Many husbands find they acquire a whole new family circle who see him as the centre of their world and provide him with a status they never had before. The idea that this is sex slavery is nonsense. Is Mrs Wisbelch from the Philippines then?
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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Nov 23 8.44pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Is Mrs Wisbelch from the Philippines then?
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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 9.50pm | |
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This guy literally defends western exploitation of women in poor countries. The sexual slavery point isn't related to what's happening in the video. That isn't what is being said there. The sexual slavery is a separate point and going on as a sick business and isn't western men travelling overseas for personal exploitation. How much of a 'set up' business that 'transactional marriage' section of exploitation is or isn't...that isn't known to me. However, sexual exploitation is happening and the denial of that is sickening. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 9.58pm)
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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 9.51pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Is Mrs Wisbelch from the Philippines then? I don't actually remember those details.
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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 9.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Note how their names and ages are reported in the media and not their addresses. Now compare that to the right wing arrests at the Cenataph which has names, ages , towns and in some cases the streets. Gives you a clue as to where the media’s impartially is. Indeed.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Nov 23 11.09pm | |
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Not very different from the dowry system and arranged marriages so common in some communities in multicultural UK.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Nov 23 11.25pm | |
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Sexual exploitation can happen anywhere, and it certainly does in the Philippines. Driven by poverty young women get lured into sex clubs and prostitution. At many levels of society it isn’t though viewed in the same way as it is here. It is regarded as an honourable way of providing for your family, if there is nothing to eat. It’s to the sex clubs that a certain type of tourist is attracted. I don’t defend them at all. I just know it happens and have met some who use them. That though isn’t the same as the fact that other young women reject such activities, find work where and when they can but also look to escape the country. Many go abroad to work as domestic helpers, care givers or in the leisure industries, sometimes making contacts and finding husbands there. I once employed staff from the Philippines in my care home. 4 of them married British guys, settled here, have children and a happy family life. Others deliberately try to meet foreigners. Usually at first by chatting over the internet and, if a connection is made, in person. Philippine girls have completely different attitudes to those we are familiar with. They don’t trust their own young men, for whom fathering a child is seen as a right of passage. They then have no interest in, or involvement with, the child. They walk away. No maintenance payments there. Of course this is a generalisation. There are plenty of good young men and successful marriages but there are also many young women whose ideal partner is a more mature, well mannered, educated and established man, who can provide them with a good home and security. They also, strangely in my view, like the way we look. Having a partner with a “big nose” is seen as very desirable there. This is their free choice. They are not being exploited at all. To describe it thus is positive proof of total ignorance.
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