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Stirlingsays 18 Nov 23 5.48am
Originally posted by steeleye20 I'm fairly safe on £5 that leaving the EHCR will not happen. Betting the bank then. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Nov 23 5.48am

Originally posted by steeleye20

I'm fairly safe on £5 that leaving the EHCR will not happen.

Betting the bank then.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 18 Nov 23 8.19am
ECHR, another piece of red tape that Boris promised to rid the UK of. Unfortunately, like other aspects of European legislation, it's already been sucked into our own. Very difficult to remove stuff once it's been incorporated. I disengage, I turn the page.
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ECHR, another piece of red tape that Boris promised to rid the UK of.
Unfortunately, like other aspects of European legislation, it's already been sucked into our own. Very difficult to remove stuff once it's been incorporated.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Nov 23 11.54am
I'm sure all those poor sods who have been flooded out in the UK will be delighted that the government plans a radical change for foreign climate disasters. Pity they don't do the same over here. [Link] One more point
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Beckenham 18 Nov 23 11.54am

I'm sure all those poor sods who have been flooded out in the UK will be delighted that the government plans a radical change for foreign climate disasters.

Pity they don't do the same over here.

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steeleye20 Croydon 18 Nov 23 12.18pm
After blowing 140 millions on absolutely nothing its back to what the tories love most. Bashing the poor and disadvantaged, how well that has worked before, how it has transformed the UK. Heseltine accuses Tories of fuelling ‘hate politics’ over plot to strip jobless of free prescriptions. They just never learn.
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Croydon 18 Nov 23 12.18pm

After blowing 140 millions on absolutely nothing its back to what the tories love most.

Bashing the poor and disadvantaged, how well that has worked before, how it has transformed the UK.

Heseltine accuses Tories of fuelling ‘hate politics’ over plot to strip jobless of free prescriptions.

They just never learn.

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Nov 23 12.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 After blowing 140 millions on absolutely nothing its back to what the tories love most. Bashing the poor and disadvantaged, how well that has worked before, how it has transformed the UK. Heseltine accuses Tories of fuelling ‘hate politics’ over plot to strip jobless of free prescriptions. They just never learn. 1. I Agree, disgraceful you should not penalise the sick. There are other ways. 2. It's as likely to happen as Tony Blair marching yobs to the cash point, pure politicking for the idiots. One more point
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Beckenham 18 Nov 23 12.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

After blowing 140 millions on absolutely nothing its back to what the tories love most.

Bashing the poor and disadvantaged, how well that has worked before, how it has transformed the UK.

Heseltine accuses Tories of fuelling ‘hate politics’ over plot to strip jobless of free prescriptions.

They just never learn.

1. I Agree, disgraceful you should not penalise the sick. There are other ways.
2. It's as likely to happen as Tony Blair marching yobs to the cash point, pure politicking for the idiots.

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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 10.47am
I write this with considerable irritation and a little annoyance. A month or two ago I made the point that protestors who had caused criminal damage were being let off or given a soft touch by our liberal justice system....which essentially judges through a political lens. I was told...I think by SW19....that I was over reacting and that this isn't the case (because he could point to judgements). He viewed the case in Bristol where criminals were let off as an anomaly. Well, just three days ago it's happened again. Criminal damage being accepted if you share the politics of those making the decisions. I get fed up with making these points and then getting replies that don't take this issue seriously enough....This is absolutely outrageous. It is legal decline manifest. [Tweet Link] [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 10.53am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Nov 23 10.47am

I write this with considerable irritation and a little annoyance.

A month or two ago I made the point that protestors who had caused criminal damage were being let off or given a soft touch by our liberal justice system....which essentially judges through a political lens.

I was told...I think by SW19....that I was over reacting and that this isn't the case (because he could point to judgements). He viewed the case in Bristol where criminals were let off as an anomaly.

Well, just three days ago it's happened again.

Criminal damage being accepted if you share the politics of those making the decisions.

I get fed up with making these points and then getting replies that don't take this issue seriously enough....This is absolutely outrageous.

It is legal decline manifest.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 10.53am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Nov 23 11.02am
You would need to be inside the jury room to know how and why someone is acquitted. It only takes one strong voice to overpower the opinions of others who just want to go home for a case to be lost against all reason. I know I will be mocked for pointing this out but it is the hope of Trump’s defence that they can get one “hold out” in place on the juries that will decide his trials. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Nov 23 11.02am

You would need to be inside the jury room to know how and why someone is acquitted.

It only takes one strong voice to overpower the opinions of others who just want to go home for a case to be lost against all reason.

I know I will be mocked for pointing this out but it is the hope of Trump’s defence that they can get one “hold out” in place on the juries that will decide his trials.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Nov 23 11.09am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I write this with considerable irritation and a little annoyance. A month or two ago I made the point that protestors who had caused criminal damage were being let off or given a soft touch by our liberal justice system....which essentially judges through a political lens. I was told...I think by SW19....that I was over reacting and that this isn't the case (because he could point to judgements). He viewed the case in Bristol where criminals were let off as an anomaly. Well, just three days ago it's happened again. Criminal damage being accepted if you share the politics of those making the decisions. I get fed up with making these points and then getting replies that don't take this issue seriously enough....This is absolutely outrageous. It is legal decline manifest. [Tweet Link] [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 10.53am) Disgraceful decision by the jury. Perhaps a bunch of us should go to their houses and cause damage as a political protest, see what they think of that. The activists did not deny their actions so this was purely a decision by the jury that these people were entitled to destroy property in pursuit of their political aims. One more point
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Beckenham 19 Nov 23 11.09am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I write this with considerable irritation and a little annoyance.

I was told...I think by SW19....that I was over reacting and that this isn't the case (because he could point to judgements). He viewed the case in Bristol where criminals were let off as an anomaly.

Well, just three days ago it's happened again.

Criminal damage being accepted if you share the politics of those making the decisions.

I get fed up with making these points and then getting replies that don't take this issue seriously enough....This is absolutely outrageous.

It is legal decline manifest.

[Tweet Link]

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 10.53am)

Disgraceful decision by the jury. Perhaps a bunch of us should go to their houses and cause damage as a political protest, see what they think of that.

The activists did not deny their actions so this was purely a decision by the jury that these people were entitled to destroy property in pursuit of their political aims.

One more point

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Stirlingsays 19 Nov 23 11.18am
Originally posted by Badger11 Disgraceful decision by the jury. Perhaps a bunch of us should go to their houses and cause damage as a political protest, see what they think of that. The activists did not deny their actions so this was purely a decision by the jury that these people were entitled to destroy property in pursuit of their political aims. Activist jury. This is an affront to British law. While I'm no fan of this particular bank for other reasons the fact that idiots are being allowed to damage their property without punishment is a real danger to investment and jobs. This is how the left frighten away money and then complain that rich people aren't giving them enough. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 11.19am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Nov 23 11.18am

Originally posted by Badger11

Disgraceful decision by the jury. Perhaps a bunch of us should go to their houses and cause damage as a political protest, see what they think of that.

The activists did not deny their actions so this was purely a decision by the jury that these people were entitled to destroy property in pursuit of their political aims.

Activist jury.

This is an affront to British law.

While I'm no fan of this particular bank for other reasons the fact that idiots are being allowed to damage their property without punishment is a real danger to investment and jobs.

This is how the left frighten away money and then complain that rich people aren't giving them enough.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2023 11.19am)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 19 Nov 23 11.19am
Originally posted by Badger11 Disgraceful decision by the jury. Perhaps a bunch of us should go to their houses and cause damage as a political protest, see what they think of that. The activists did not deny their actions so this was purely a decision by the jury that these people were entitled to destroy property in pursuit of their political aims. well, you go soft on criminal behaviour, and what do you get ? even more criminal behaviour. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Badger11

Disgraceful decision by the jury. Perhaps a bunch of us should go to their houses and cause damage as a political protest, see what they think of that.

The activists did not deny their actions so this was purely a decision by the jury that these people were entitled to destroy property in pursuit of their political aims.

well, you go soft on criminal behaviour, and what do you get ? even more criminal behaviour.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Nov 23 11.26am
It makes a mockery of passing laws Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 19 Nov 23 11.26am

It makes a mockery of passing laws

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Nov 23 11.32am
Originally posted by HKOwen It makes a mockery of passing laws Is there an appeal process that HSBC could use?? hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Sussex 19 Nov 23 11.32am

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Originally posted by HKOwen

It makes a mockery of passing laws

Is there an appeal process that HSBC could use??

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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